Down and DIrty

Patrick · Post by **Patrick** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:53 pm

My check-in to see how you all are doing. My life is filled with lots of bueatiful experiences and mysterious intrigues so just saying Hi and staying HI and Happy Birthday to you all that I missed and if everything is going good let me Know.

Kipi · Post by **Kipi** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:08 pm

Welcome back, Patrick!!

I'm rather fine, thank you (excluding my broken toe

).
Otherwise, you can probably see that this place is quite quiet now, probably since many "spammers" have left. To reasons of that I won't start to disguss here, since you can probably get quite good picture by checking threads from this and next few pages of SYM...

Maharlika · Post by **Maharlika** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:50 pm

Nice to see you again, Patrick.

As for "quietness", I'd rather see it more in the line of "tranquility."

Although now that there are a couple of Weasel sightings

I think that is about to change again.

Bloodstalker · Post by **Bloodstalker** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:56 pm

Must you constantly say that name mah?

Maharlika · Post by **Maharlika** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:12 pm

Mea culpa, Sensei...

Bloodstalker wrote:Must you constantly say that name mah?

... but you must have realized by now, that part of my BE is being a COMMunicant.

Now, why don't we ask Patrick what these beautiful experiences are so you can focus your mind elsewhere?

dj_venom · Post by **dj_venom** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:08 pm

Maharlika wrote:Nice to see you again, Patrick.

As for "quietness", I'd rather see it more in the line of "tranquility."

Although now that there are a couple of Weasel sightings I think that is about to change again.

Hey, well as Hitler once said 'By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise'

And yeah Patty, bugger you missed it all, but most of the new blokes are gone and the older ones are left. Anyway, good to see you popping in, hope all is well.

dragon wench · Post by **dragon wench** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:00 pm

Where's Aegis and his codpiece when they'd actually be useful to have around....

Maharlika · Post by **Maharlika** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:03 pm

Interesting comment, that.

dj_venom wrote:Hey, well as Hitler once said 'By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise'

And your point being?

@DW: Yeah... something like teaching some whippersnappers some lessons in the Art of Spamming?

dragon wench · Post by **dragon wench** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:53 pm

@Mah,
well lessons in something anyway...

Though...given that this concerns Aegis.... anything is possible

dj_venom · Post by **dj_venom** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:18 am

I'm just saying, anyone can lable anything anyway they want.

It's comments like that, that just stick with me. Like someone saying 'may or may not'... duh, there is no other choice possible.

That was just a more sophisticated way of placing my point, that, and it's from someone famous, which usually works better.

And whippersnappers? Where?

Maharlika · Post by **Maharlika** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:36 am

dj_venom wrote:I'm just saying, anyone can lable anything anyway they want.

It's comments like that, that just stick with me. Like someone saying 'may or may not'... duh, there is no other choice possible.

That was just a more sophisticated way of placing my point, that, and it's from someone famous, which usually works better.

How convenient an answer.

Quite convenient considering the context of your over-all post.

And whippersnappers? Where?

Spammer wannabes in SYM...

In case you want to find the context of MY post, check posts of previous pasts when Aegis was Spammer King.

dj_venom · Post by **dj_venom** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:54 am

Was that before or after they invented the metric system?

Maharlika · Post by **Maharlika** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:00 am

Don't ask me...

...ask fable.

Well, Aegis fancies himself as some god of sorts.

Better yet, ask him. :mischief:

Just be ready to avoid those flying sturgeons. :laugh:

Vicsun · Post by **Vicsun** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:27 am

dj_venom wrote:Hey, well as Hitler once said 'By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise'

Well, do you know who else quoted Hitler a whole lot? That's right, it was Hitler. Hitler quoted Hitler often and because you are quoting Hitler like Hitler did you are just like Hitler.

Hitler!

Darzog · Post by **Darzog** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:03 am

I actually think the quote is very profound no matter who said it. The point being that just because you choose a label doesn't make it valid. I think that's a worthy statement to remember no matter who said it.

[quote="DJV]And whippersnappers? Where?[/quote"]
I interpreted this differently Mah. I didn't see it as asking what you considered a whippersnapper to be, but the irony of pointing out that there are no whippersnappers in SYM anymore. The only major posters are all of the old clique now.

Maybe it is easier to be very welcoming to all new members when there aren't any?

Maharlika · Post by **Maharlika** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:56 am

Darzog wrote:I actually think the quote is very profound no matter who said it. The point being that just because you choose a label doesn't make it valid. I think that's a worthy statement to remember no matter who said it.

I interpreted this differently Mah. I didn't see it as asking what you considered a whippersnapper to be, but the irony of pointing out that there are no whippersnappers in SYM anymore. The only major posters are all of the old clique now.

Maybe it is easier to be very welcoming to all new members when there aren't any?

@Darzog: The problem with you and the others is that you think that you and your friends are the only "whippersnappers" of SYM/GB worthy of mentioning.

Obviously you have noticed THE DATES WE JOINED GB, and that between Aegis, DW, and me, I'm the youngest and we came a long way back, hence, the comment of "whippersnappers." Therefore such comment was made based on Aegis' use of his legendary sturgeons.

There is no rush in getting fresh blood in SYM. Others have left long before you guys came, and others have and will come anew.

SYM, and most especially GB, have survived through the years despite and inspite of members leaving for good. What makes you think that SYM/GB will go down just because these recently banned members aren't here anymore?

There was a time when the SLURRs and its fabled truck, the Rolling Thunder, practically swamped the threads and spiced things up here at SYM. They don't post that much anymore but it didn't cause SYM to "go down."

Surely you are astute enough that THERE ARE new posters here at SYM. One doesn't expect SYM to be inundated with newbies posting in wild abandon on such a short notice.

Now if you and the others who are remaining here in SYM/GB are unhappy with the way things are in this part of cyberspace, you are always free to move on and not participate in this forum anymore. No one is forcing you to stay. If you, however, still choose to participate, move on and accept the fact that these friends of yours who are persona non grata here at GB won't be back.

In case you don't know, Gruntboy and even Sailor Saturn are friends of mine. Gruntboy also happens to be a close friend of T'lainya. When they were banished, we understood why it had to happen and moved on. T' and I didn't make a big issue out of it, and as mods we didn't even antagonize Buck who decided to have our friend banned.

Others who felt disenchanted at some time just left quietly and never caused trouble. They have their own forum now.

Deal with it.

Now, why did I get to say all these things?

It is so easy to argue and have a debate on the validity of DJ's post and yours, but man, I aint born yesterday, and quite frankly I'm insulted that you would take me and those remaining here for a fool thinking that such comments made were posted just for its face value.

Take note of the teal font. That means I'm posting AS A REGULAR MEMBER OF THIS BOARD.

I will leave this to my fellow mods to handle this issue lest I be accused of wearing my mod cap with the swastika sign emblazoned on it.

Have a nice day.

Vicsun · Post by **Vicsun** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:24 am

Darzog wrote:...but the irony of pointing out that there are no whippersnappers in SYM anymore. The only major posters are all of the old clique now.

Speaking of irony, I can't help but notice you're still posting, whippersnapper

dragon wench · Post by **dragon wench** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:28 pm

Darzog wrote:The only major posters are all of the old clique now.

Quite frankly,
the only reason to use the modifier "old" in this particular instance is as a reference to the complete and utter lack of maturity that has been shown by you and numerous others.

I have said very little on this whole issue, but the puerile behaviour demonstrated by people such as yourself has become wearisome in the extreme. Mah said it very well IMO, either contribute to this place in a constructive manner or pick up your marbles and take them to a sandbox more to your liking.
Or, is it simply that because you didn't get your own way you are going to continue throwing a temper tantrum in as disruptive a manner as possible until either you eventually get bored or end up banned like your friends? And, of course, if the latter happens, that will no doubt confirm in your mind that you've been unjustly treated. Despite the fact that you and your friends have actually done your best to antagonise Buck and the SYM mods and provoke an extreme response from them, thus providing you with yet further reason to claim you've been unduly victimised.

Chimaera182 · Post by **Chimaera182** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:36 pm

And this started out as such a nice, friendly "Welcome back, Pat, how ya been?" thread, too.

Why is this issue still coming up? Everyone on both sides keeps fueling it then blaming each other over it. Get the heck over it. I had to go back to the first post just to figure out who it was we were all supposed to be saying hi to.

Hi, Patrick. Hope all's well.

Kipi · Post by **Kipi** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:41 pm

And it seems that I have started this whole arguing just mentioning that there aren't as many of us "new" spammers left here...

Chimaera182 wrote:And this started out as such a nice, friendly "Welcome back, Pat, how ya been?" thread, too. Why is this issue still coming up? Everyone on both sides keeps fueling it then blaming each other over it. Get the heck over it. I had to go back to the first post just to figure out who it was we were all supposed to be saying hi to.

Very well, said Chim.

I don't see any reason to continue this discussion. At least it doesn't help anybody to get used to the situation. So, as DW said, if you don't like the new style, there is a lot of other forums to lurk in. This doesn't mean I want anybody to leave this place, though.