Yes!

Klorox · Post by **Klorox** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:59 pm

I did it baby! I just finished BG1 without reloading! BG2 here I come!

The Z · Post by **The Z** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:01 pm

That's a feat for sure. You didn't die once?????

Klorox · Post by **Klorox** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:53 pm

Nope. And I never reloaded either. When NPCs died, I'd haul their carcasses and crap to a temple to bring 'em back.

BTW, since I didn't do all of the quests (including any of the TotSC areas... too dangerous), I was about 30,000 XP short of the cap.

CFM · Post by **CFM** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:18 pm

I really dug the expansion areas. They might be worth a few reloads. First time with BG2 too?

DaemonJ · Post by **DaemonJ** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:55 pm

Congratulations!

Klorox · Post by **Klorox** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:02 pm

CFM wrote:I really dug the expansion areas. They might be worth a few reloads. First time with BG2 too?

This isn't my first game, it's my first game that I refuse to reload.

enagonios · Post by **enagonios** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:45 pm

Hmm, I think I may give this no death/reload type of game a run-through in BG1 as well

I’m planning to stay away from those areas with those damn Sirines though. And those dungeons that never stop spawning skeleton warriors and kobold commandos. Still thinking of what kind of character I’ll use..

The Z · Post by **The Z** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:32 pm

Klorax, what was your character like?

Thrifalas · Post by **Thrifalas** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:37 am

Yeah, I wondered that myself. My money is on some kind of thief though.

CFM · Post by **CFM** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:03 am

Klorox wrote:This isn't my first game, it's my first game that I refuse to reload.

Ah, I see. I always play that way (at least, *try* to).

The one time I played, I got thru to the end of Chapter 5 without getting smoked (except for that blue chick kissed me, hardly fair btw). It was great fun, being very intense everytime I turned the game on (until reloading became a part of life in my run of BG2).

Just before starting Chapter 6, I went to Ulgoth's Beard (TotSC). Make no mistake: my streak of Almost No Reloads came to a screetching halt.

So what's up dude? What PC did you run? What NPC's did you use? How many hit points did everybody end up with? What other quests did you avoid? What's up?

enagonios · Post by **enagonios** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:58 pm

"The one time I played, I got thru to the end of Chapter 5 without getting smoked (except for that blue chick kissed me, hardly fair btw). "

To counter this, iirc you can switch the order of the portraits on the right side of the screen. put any male npc at the top so that she will assume he is the leader and kiss him instead.

VonDondu · Post by **VonDondu** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:30 pm

enagonios wrote:"The one time I played, I got thru to the end of Chapter 5 without getting smoked (except for that blue chick kissed me, hardly fair btw). "

To counter this, iirc you can switch the order of the portraits on the right side of the screen. put any male npc at the top so that she will assume he is the leader and kiss him instead.

You don't have to change the leader of your party. Just send someone besides your main character to talk to her and she'll kiss that character instead. She will also kiss female characters, by the way. (The last time I played, I sacrificed Imoen because my other two characters were much stronger and that made it easier to fight "the blue chick" and her captor.)

enagonios · Post by **enagonios** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:54 pm

really? hmm.. i guess my memory is going, i kinda remember doing that but she either a) wont kiss a guy if he isn't at the "top" of the portraits or b) wont kiss a girl..

guess it really IS time for another playthrough

wise grimwald · Post by **wise grimwald** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:14 am

Yes

Well done! I was thinking of trying it,solo.Indeed I started. However I had just installed Tutu and suddenly discovered it was not the same game! I went into an Inn in Bergost where I normally kill an assailant by stealth. Unlike before, he followed me outside and then Silke started attacking him The spiders behaved differently too, so I thought, not this time perhaps!

CFM · Post by **CFM** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:40 am

Thanks to everyone for the advise on how to get by Ms. Kiss of Death.

My time thru the game, of course, I had to reload because of this encounter. I then had Jaheira (or maybe it was Imoen or Dynahier, I forget which) talk to Ms. Blue. The rest of it played out, with her being resurrected or whatever (I don't remember the particulars of the encounter, it's been awhile).

I just thought it was a little unfair. I had a streak going, at least to that point of the game, of No Reloads Via Death (I reload when leveling for max HP

). It just felt a little cheesy: if it's your first time thru, and you don't know what's coming, this seems like an Automatic Reload encounter.

Admittedly, I knew something Not Good would result in kissing Ms. Temptress. I just didn't figure it'd be an Automatic Reload. Too bad she couldn't hit on Character Slot #2 instead. Anybody remember what happens if you turn her down?

Moral of the Story: if a blue hottie wants a kiss, volunteer a friend. Preferably a female friend.

VonDondu · Post by **VonDondu** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:20 am

CFM wrote:Thanks to everyone for the advise on how to get by Ms. Kiss of Death.

My time thru the game, of course, I had to reload because of this encounter. I then had Jaheira (or maybe it was Imoen or Dynahier, I forget which) talk to Ms. Blue. The rest of it played out, with her being resurrected or whatever (I don't remember the particulars of the encounter, it's been awhile).

...Anybody remember what happens if you turn her down?

If one of your characters talks to her, she will kiss that character, even if you try to refuse. You should then attack her. When she's sorely wounded, she will beg you to stop and tell you that she is being controlled by an ogre mage. She will raise the character she kissed if you order her to. (Be careful--the raised character will only have 1 hit point.) If you volunteer to help her, she gets excited (she's chaotic and she'd love to watch the fight). Then Mr. Ogre Mage appears and asks why she hasn't killed you, and then he attacks you. (He can cast Invisibility and he uses spells that will make your characters run away to places where they might be attacked by sirines or bands of ogres or wolves. Lots of fun.) If you don't force-attack Ms. Blue Chick, she will leave when you have freed her. (If you want to get the full amount of experience for killing her---5000 big ones--you have to make her turn red first.)

I'm actually in the middle of game right now, and I have to admit that my heart isn't really in it since I know the game so well already. At first, I was just trying to see how fast I could level up some custom characters after discussing the "perfect character" with LordTerror (answer: way too fast--it makes the game less challenging), but I got drawn in by the action and the dialogue. (The in-party NPC dialogue isn't that great, but there are hundreds of NPCs you can talk to, and I really enjoy the atmosphere that was lost in BG2.) It's too bad it's not fresh and surprising anymore--this game is really a lot of fun.

Klorox · Post by **Klorox** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:24 am

I was playing a Gnome Cleric/Illusionist with the "protect the quarterback" mentality. He didn't come close to combat anytime I could help it, and had awesome saves due to being a gnome.

CFM · Post by **CFM** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:32 am

VonDondu wrote:If one of your characters talks to her, she will kiss that character, even if you try to refuse.

Ah yes that's right, thanks. I now remember trying it a couple of times to see if there was a non-perverted way to handle it, so to speak. It really is an unavoidable reload, unless you happen to have someone else doing the talking, or skip the encounter altogether. Lame, but the rest of it is cool.

VonDondu wrote:I'm actually in the middle of game right now, and I have to admit that my heart isn't really in it since I know the game so well already. At first, I was just trying to see how fast I could level up some custom characters after discussing the "perfect character" with LordTerror (answer: way too fast--it makes the game less challenging), but I got drawn in by the action and the dialogue. (The in-party NPC dialogue isn't that great, but there are hundreds of NPCs you can talk to, and I really enjoy the atmosphere that was lost in BG2.) It's too bad it's not fresh and surprising anymore--this game is really a lot of fun.

Actually... your discoveries and insites about different aspects of the game help keep it fresh and surprising for some of us. How various ingame scripts work, different ingame variables, what happens if-then-else, etc etc... maybe it's the programmer in me, but I find it interesting to hear about the internal goings-on of the BG games. Keep 'em coming!

Klorox wrote:I was playing a Gnome Cleric/Illusionist with the "protect the quarterback" mentality. He didn't come close to combat anytime I could help it, and had awesome saves due to being a gnome.

That's awesome dude, because it doesn't sound like you needed any cheesy tactics to pull it off.

No reloads with tactics without cheese is the spice of life.

kmonster · Post by **kmonster** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:55 pm

@Klorox: Did you use any mods (like maxHP at level up or flawless spell learning) ?

Klorox · Post by **Klorox** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:19 pm

I used EoU, but only added in max HP and item stacking.