The Gull's Roost Tavern and Inn

[Kipi]

We better save a full section of seats, I think all the patrons of the Gull's Roost might have reservations.:laugh:

Probably... But they must accept second class seats, since the first class is now full...

[BlueSky]

Probably... But they must accept second class seats, since the first class is now full...

Always did like first class...
Just got better service..
Hey, where's our barmaid?
Thought the service here was on top of things.
oh well, smiles as he heads to the door to go out for a smoke:mischief:

[Kipi]

Hey, where's our barmaid?
Thought the service here was on top of things.
oh well, smiles as he heads to the door to go out for a smoke:mischief:

Well, you should remember our destination, right? :devil:
Or what did you wait from the flight to hell????

[dragon wench]

Well, for all you young whipper-snappers.....I never thought I would make it past 30, then never thought past 40, then recently celebrated my 51st...
Quit drinking 10 yrs. ago, thank god...I was not a nice person when drinking.
As for cigs. still puff away. As for the herb, try not to go a day without if possible,(smiles to self)......
motto, probably misquoting here..."why tiptoe through life only to arrive at death's door unscathed"

Hey Chimaera182....the herb helps my breathing...a local doctor here told me people with asthma actually breath better after a little of the herb.

*serves BlueSky the beverage of his choosing*

Glad you could make it, and sorry for not welcoming you earlier, I've been outside most of the day

lol! See the thing is... I find the smoke of regular, packaged cigarettes really acrid and difficult to deal with.... But..er loose tobacco leaf mixed with "herbs" is really not that bad (providing it isn't skunkweed).
The only type of smoke I really tolerate well though is the scent of pipe tobacco. I once followed a guy approximately one city block because his pipe smelled so good, He probably thought I was stalking him.

[BlueSky]

*serves BlueSky the beverage of his choosing*

Glad you could make it, and sorry for not welcoming you earlier, I've been outside most of the day

lol! See the thing is... I find the smoke of regular, packaged cigarettes really acrid and difficult to deal with.... But..er loose tobacco leaf mixed with "herbs" is really not that bad (providing it isn't skunkweed).
The only type of smoke I really tolerate well though is the scent of pipe tobacco. I once followed a guy approximately one city block because his pipe smelled so good, He probably thought I was stalking him.

The loose leaf type you speak of, I tried on one of my many trips to Europe.
I prefer the nice strain, indoor of course, that my gnome grows, pleasant yet not overly "skunky", as some people I know equate with quality.
Hate to admit that while in Europe I developed a taste for the Cuban and Dominican varieties of cigars available, but haven't found any available here in the states. I figure that having given up the alcohol years ago, a man still needs a few other vices to even the karma out:laugh:

Thanks for the invite

[DesR85]

We better save a full section of seats, I think all the patrons of the Gull's Roost might have reservations.:laugh:

What, exactly, are you guys referring to? A plane? A ship? And no, whatever you guys are referring to, I have no reservation there.

Anyway, as for cigarettes, if there is one that can disintegrate the filters in a gas mask, I would be dead by then. *Checks filter to make sure they're still in good condition* Yep, looking good.

[Chimaera182]

Hey Chimaera182....the herb helps my breathing...a local doctor here told me people with asthma actually breath better after a little of the herb.

I used to wonder about that, but I find that smoking a lil "herb" can incite some of my attacks. Of course, most of the times that I smoke it, I'm at my friend's house and she has three cats (two were dropped there by her mother a few months ago and it's debatable when she'll get them back), and I'm allergic to cats. So... [shrug]

[fable]

Eucalyptus and/or cedarwood (not sandalwood) are traditional inhaled remedies for dealing with some of the symptoms of asthma. Until the 1950s, there were no ingested meds for anaphylaxsis, and the first manually inhaled med came on the market in the 1960s. Unfortunately, the trad ways of handling asthma were only mildly successful. Many people still died each year despite them. (Estimates were around 10,000 asthma-related deaths/year. Currently, about 1000 die per year worldwide due to asthma.)

I find eucalyptus and cedarwood in some kind of aroma therapy delivery system a nice adjunct to help sleep at night, if I'm having slight breathing discomfort. But tobacco...? Most asthmatics suffer from allergies to tobacco, and in the long run, it kills lung cells, just as asthma does. Using it help asthma seems to be self-defeating, if you know what I mean.

[dragon wench]

@Fable,
I also find that a steam bath over a vat of boiling water containing Vic's Vapor rub (since it has menthol as an active ingredient) is quite helpful before bed.
I would never replace my steroid medications with remedies like this (I've tried...and tried.. but I can't eliminate them completely), but they are a great addition to any treatment.

Regarding tobacco, I can't comment on standard tobacco because I've never been a smoker...exactly. Though, as I said, I find the smoke of 'roll your owns' to be far less nasty than the acrid gunk that comes out of manufactured cigarettes. No surprise, I suppose, since they are filled with battery acid and all kinds of other delightful substances.
But, I confess to er... having... "inhaled" other 'exotic herbs' in the past and certainly in the short term it can relieve that all too familiar tightness in the lungs and chest. I suspect this is because weed has an overall relaxing effect or something like that.
Though, obviously, smoke of any kind will only have negative consequences for a breathing condition in the longterm.

[Philos]

@DW

your

Regarding tobacco, I can't comment on standard tobacco because I've never been a smoker...exactly. Though, as I said, I find the smoke of 'roll your owns' to be far less nasty than the acrid gunk that comes out of manufactured cigarettes. No surprise, I suppose, since they are filled with battery acid and all kinds of other delightful substances.

I seem to remember a fad from a few years back of cigarettes manufactured (I think they were French?!?) with bits of shredded clothes rolled into the tobacco. The cloth likewise contained all sorts of vile substances used in clothing manufacturing. They were popular because the chemicals evidently produce an extra buzz, IIRC. Don't know if they are still around.

I'm not a smoker either, surprising since both my parents do. I probably got enough second hand smoke riding in the back seat as a kid to turn me away from it. I can remember in the dead of winter on occasion having to roll down one of the back windows just so I could breathe some fresh air.

[dragon wench]

@DW

your

I seem to remember a fad from a few years back of cigarettes manufactured (I think they were French?!?) with bits of shredded clothes rolled into the tobacco. The cloth likewise contained all sorts of vile substances used in clothing manufacturing. They were popular because the chemicals evidently produce an extra buzz, IIRC. Don't know if they are still around.

I'm not a smoker either, surprising since both my parents do. I probably got enough second hand smoke riding in the back seat as a kid to turn me away from it. I can remember in the dead of winter on occasion having to roll down one of the back windows just so I could breathe some fresh air.

Ugh.... That sounds just horrid.... So much for "French Taste"

That brings to mind something I wrestle with...
I generally feel people should be free to do with their own bodies whatever they wish.... so long as it is not negatively affecting others..

So, what to do about smoking? Especially, what to do about smoking in your own home or vehicle with children around?
I find myself caught between concern over excessive legislation within the private sphere and the feeling that kids should not be subjected to smoke against their will or before they are old enough to have made decisions like that on their own.... *sigh*

[Philos]

@DW

So, what to do about smoking? Especially, what to do about smoking in your own home or vehicle with children around?
I find myself caught between concern over excessive legislation within the private sphere and the feeling that kids should not be subjected to smoke against their will or before they are old enough to have made decisions like that on their own.... *sigh*

I hear you, that is certainly tough. California is gone pretty ballistic on smoking and although I hate breathing smoke, you have to give those that do "some" place to do it. It seems like most of the entire state is a no smoking zone. On the other hand I live in Tennessee and although many restaurants have no smoking sections, they usually border the smoking section. My wife is highly allergic to cigarette smoke (causes her air passages to close up) and we have to be careful where we sit when we go out. We do have a few no smoking restaurants but not many. Having been in the position of "captive audience" for smoke I certainly wouldn't want that to be forced on any kid. My feeling is any confined space such as a vehicle (especially public trans) should be no smoking. In your own home is a tough call, but generally I think unless all inhabitants are smokers then it should also be no smoking. Let the smoker go outside to have a puff. Smoke permeates fabric and any air handling system (A/C or Heat) will carry that smoke throughout the house and likewise taint anything therein. My neighbor smokes and when I go over to chat and have a cup of coffee, I have to change clothes when I get home because they reek of smoke. Just from sitting in there for an hour or so.

Public places is tougher but my opinion is that if the place has seating like an arena, stadium, or bleachers where people are assigned a seat then no. But if out in public on a sidewalk or park where someone who doesn't like smoke can easily walk away, then I would say it is okay for someone to smoke. I don't 'have' to sit next to them. But banning 'any' smoking in public is probably not a good idea.

[KidD01]

Whew! Of all damned thing I've been thru in past 2 years........

*PANT PANT* Ahhh say DeeDubya..hun..who's bartending now? *Hoping Weasel & others do not catch him around* :laugh:

[dragon wench]

Whew! Of all damned thing I've been thru in past 2 years........

*PANT PANT* Ahhh say DeeDubya..hun..who's bartending now? *Hoping Weasel & others do not catch him around* :laugh:

OMG Kid! Welcome Back!

[KidD01]

Heeya hun! *HUG*

Yea I'm back. Hopefully for good. I've been stripped of my private life for damn 2 years, and I'm trying to take back those as well as try to damage control all damage been done

Before plunging into another RPG game again, first thing that cross my mind is this place. It feels like I'm home........Finally after 2 years

[Chimaera182]

But tobacco...? Most asthmatics suffer from allergies to tobacco, and in the long run, it kills lung cells, just as asthma does. Using it help asthma seems to be self-defeating, if you know what I mean.

Is there tobacco in weed?

[fable]

Is there tobacco in weed?

Could be. Marajuana, like tobacco, triggers smoke, which irritates the lungs, which in turn can really hurt asthmatics. Best advice to my fellow asthma sufferers: stay as far away from areas with significant air pollution as you can, and especially avoid areas suffering from smoke of any sort, whether its tobacco or incinerators.

On the other hand I live in Tennessee and although many restaurants have no smoking sections, they usually border the smoking section. My wife is highly allergic to cigarette smoke (causes her air passages to close up) and we have to be careful where we sit when we go out.

I can empathize with your wife. Many of the places we've lived are just like that, and our recent vacation in Budapest was an exposure to that mentality, again. What hypocrites...! As if they don't know that being next to a smoker, breathing in their smoke, is the problem, rather than sitting at a table where you're allowed to smoke. We made it a point to always eat before everybody else, usually at the start of lunch or dinner hours. But nothing could help on the streets, where smoking is extremely common, far more so than in the US these days.

[Philos]

@Fable,
Sorry you have to deal with it as well.

But nothing could help on the streets, where smoking is extremely common, far more so than in the US these days.

Yes, odd how it seems to be that way in so many places. Almost as if countries around the world have regressed back to the 1950's when most people in the US smoked, and smoked pretty much anywhere. You'd think all the medical research about smoking over the past 50 years was nothing more than a scifi novel.

We lived in central Florida previously. One summer Orlando was host to some of the World Cup quarter finals. The Netherlands was one of the teams and many of their fans were staying in our town. My wife and I decided to try a restaurant we hadn't tried before. It was packed with fans but we got a seat in non-smoking. Well, it didn't matter to the Dutch. They just lit up wherever they sat. I complained to the manager and he said he was sorry but the "visitors" were not used to non-smoking and he didn't want to tell them to stop. Thought it would be bad as a host. Even though we'd been served our salads we left. It took my wife about 30-40 minutes to recover.

[fable]

Yes, odd how it seems to be that way in so many places. Almost as if countries around the world have regressed back to the 1950's when most people in the US smoked, and smoked pretty much anywhere. You'd think all the medical research about smoking over the past 50 years was nothing more than a scifi novel.

The theory I've heard is that smoking behind the Iron Curtain used to be a treasured luxury, one you could afford perhaps once a month. Now that it's very cheap and salaries are higher, smoking has gone off the charts. Of course, that still leaves Western Europe, but there, it would seem smoking is simply a long prevalent vice. I've been reading recently that in the 17th century Calvinist preachers in the Netherlands railed at their congregations for going to smoking houses--so it's long established. Not that the tobacco industry, fresh from losing sales in the US, wouldn't take advantage of hitting this huge market with advertising; no sir.

We lived in central Florida previously. One summer Orlando was host to some of the World Cup quarter finals. The Netherlands was one of the teams and many of their fans were staying in our town. My wife and I decided to try a restaurant we hadn't tried before. It was packed with fans but we got a seat in non-smoking. Well, it didn't matter to the Dutch. They just lit up wherever they sat. I complained to the manager and he said he was sorry but the "visitors" were not used to non-smoking and he didn't want to tell them to stop. Thought it would be bad as a host. Even though we'd been served our salads we left. It took my wife about 30-40 minutes to recover.

Disgusting, but all too common. We had something like that happen here in New Jersey a few years ago, when we went to a popular "high end" Italian restaurant. Midway through our meal in a non-smoking room, people that had entered since we were there started lighting up. I complained, and was told that this was a large party that couldn't be seated elsewhere. So we paid for what we ate, assured them we would never return and would spread the word, and left.

In these instances I don't blame the smokers, but the management. It's a simple case of personal greed over their own established policies, and the health of their clientele.

[Philos]

@Fable,

The theory I've heard is that smoking behind the Iron Curtain used to be a treasured luxury, one you could afford perhaps once a month. Now that it's very cheap and salaries are higher, smoking has gone off the charts.

Sounds like a pretty good theory. Would also fit with China and its expanding economy and comensurate increase in smoking. From some things I read a while back, many Chinese have picked up the habit.

In these instances I don't blame the smokers, but the management. It's a simple case of personal greed over their own established policies, and the health of their clientele.

Absolutely!!! As we left, I told the manager (who was irritatingly cavalier in his manner) that it was a shame that he would permanently lose 2 local (potentially long term) customers just for fear of possibly "inconveniencing" a couple of short term visitors that he would likely never see again. We never went back either, and also did as you in spreading the word. I guess it was one instance where justice was served as I noticed about 5 or 6 months later it was closed and gone.