Prestige Class Help!

Sebastian · Post by **Sebastian** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:32 pm

Hi everyone. I'm a BG2 fan and I'm new at this NWN thing. Jet's just say that the NWN2 character creation part gives me headaches. There's so many things to choose. Anyway, I know what I want to be: a sorcerer. I loved the class in BG2 and I hope I can enjoy it here. I like the sorcerer because I like to have power when I play games. And my BG2 sorc ended up pretty powerful, more like unstoppable, and I didn't use any cheats or bugs to my advantage. I rolled the stats till I got the max possible, planned every spell in advance and by the end I had a killing machine. I even used this soft to change my char's appearance to Irenicus, man that was sweet.

So getting back to my questions. I looked at the prestige classes and I saw the Red Dragon Disciple. I got interested because I like dragons. Now, If I get the requirements let's say a lvl 10 sorc, and then I choose the red dragon class, will I still be getting new spells as I advance in the dragon disciple class or no. I cant find info on this. Is it like dual class. If yes, then I will probably just go full sorcerer.

I appreciate your time, thank you.

fable · Post by **fable** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:55 pm

Hi--welcome to GameBanshee.

The manual isn't very clear on that point, is it? When you get a prestige class, you lose the ability to make further gains in your former class (unless you switch back to it after making another level). You keep what you had, but you start moving forward in an entirely new class.

I really see no advantages to turning a sorc into an RDD. You simply become a below average fighter and a below average sorc, IMO. Wizards, sorcs and warlocks really require the entire game to build up that power and those spells. It's otherwise for melee types.

Magrus · Post by **Magrus** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:23 pm

You get no new spells or spells per day with the RDD prestige class. Only immunities, attribute bonuses, extra HP, natural armor bonuses and fire breath. It is horrible for use when wanting a character that can cast spells regularly.

Sebastian · Post by **Sebastian** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:38 pm

Thank you for your replies and thanx for clearing that up. So the red dragon disciple would go better with the bard class. Can you dual wield swords with a bard, like in BG2? Man, I have to get up to speed with the new rule system. Does anyone know where I could get the newest D&D ruleset, without having to buy a book. Is there a pdf version of the new rules? Or is it not possible without actually buying the rule book? That would suck. I remember back in the day (BG2), I somehow got the rules for the second edition D&D (I think that was the name, now it's 3. something right?) as a pdf. Thanx again.

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:00 am

Sebastian wrote:Thank you for your replies and thanx for clearing that up. So the red dragon disciple would go better with the bard class. Can you dual wield swords with a bard, like in BG2? Man, I have to get up to speed with the new rule system. Does anyone know where I could get the newest D&D ruleset, without having to buy a book. Is there a pdf version of the new rules? Or is it not possible without actually buying the rule book? That would suck. I remember back in the day (BG2), I somehow got the rules for the second edition D&D (I think that was the name, now it's 3. something right?) as a pdf. Thanx again.

You can read the D20 (The Hypertext d20 SRD (v3.5 d20 System Reference Document) :: d20srd.org) reference rules which are free (last time I checked), and are very similar to the core rules of D&D, but without all the lore and realm specifics. Been a while since I wade through them, so I do not know how many things have changed between the D20 rules and 3.5ed D&D however.
However, many of the needed "rules" are mentioned in the manual as well, so that is worth to look through if you are unfamiliar with the ruleset (mine was pdf on the disc

)

As for your question about bards, then yes - they can dual wield - all classes can. There are feats to improve dual wielding which you can select.

mCrvn · Post by **mCrvn** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:51 am

well although rdd would seem to be a good choice for a sorc it is not. rdd would work great with some other DIY or as other call them jack-of-all-trades but not with magic oriented sorcs... i believe that there might be only the pale master if you want to get more spells (you get however less than half of what you could get if sticked to pure sorc) once taking the path of the master of death... and you get some great feats for the moment when you run out of spells or distance

(the former is less likely to happen as the game's rest rules are quite "user-friendly").

Boduro · Post by **Boduro** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:43 am

The sorcerer is a great class my friend.

Anyway in the dvd you got a much more extended manual on pdf format.

Drunkside · Post by **Drunkside** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:21 pm

Let me tell you what rdd is great for.4 or 5 levels of fighter to get specialization for a weapon or two. Then, 6-8 levels of sorc, and finally 7 lvl s of rdd. You got buffs, ac of more than 20 while wearing light armor, and biiiiiig ab and damage. and, if you take twi weapons, thats about 7 hits in turn, i think... And dont forget to take maximize spell, and dodge, + two weapon defence. im not sure if there is ambidexterity in nwn 2, and take specialization for your main weapon and unarmed... it has proved pretty useful. (if you didnt get it yet, i play this build).