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Okay... just got the game for X'mas. Like it a lot, but have had two challenges. First, Elanee keeps morphing herself into the most useless and easily damaged of animals, (I thought the whole idea of AI was that characters were supposed to do reasonably intellegent things... lol), if anybody can help with limiting that. Also, trying to get Qara to memorize new spells, I really wanted to have her learn Haste before going into the Thieve's warehouse, but couldn't get it done, didn't see how to get her to memorize a spell, also, was not able to get her to remove a spell from her list and replace it with haste on the level up - interface. Any pointers on either of these two issues?
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The AI sucks. Control the character if you want it to do better. There is a "puppet mode" that you can reach through clicking the tab furthest on the right of the screen you use to view and level the character. Should be the first option in the list of options on that menu. Basically turns the character into a well, puppet. Does nothing unless you order it to do something by taking control.

Qara is a sorceress. They operate differently from wizards. They learn spells naturally, on their own. They cannot scribe scrolls into their spellbooks like wizards. You will have to wait until she gains a level and it being a level where she can learn a new 3rd level spell. Every so many levels, you can remove 1 spell and replace it with another, I believe that works as at 4th level, and every even level afterwards. That may help you out. However it must 2 levels lower than the highest level you can cast, meaning, she needs to be 10th level in order to switch out 1 3rd level for a different 3rd level spell.
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If you want Elanee to be a better caster instead of using the shapeshifting you can turn off the option using feats during combat. Don't remember what it's exactly called but it makes sure she no longer shapeshifts, you can also put her castermode up a notch making her a nice druid caster/healer, imho that suits her WAY better than trying to "tank". However if you are using Qara make sure you have enough tanks to pick up the slack after Elanee is no longer doing so.
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De_Priester wrote:If you want Elanee to be a better caster instead of using the shapeshifting you can turn off the option using feats during combat. Don't remember what it's exactly called but it makes sure she no longer shapeshifts, you can also put her castermode up a notch making her a nice druid caster/healer .
Can you expand on this please - this is exactly what I am hoping to achieve. :)
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Open up the character sheet menu for the character. Click on the tab at the right out of the multiple tabs on that menu. There will be a list of options in changing how the AI affects your character. "Puppet Mode" makes them essentially inert beyond following you outside of combat, making it so they only do things when you take complete control of them. Aside from that, the list of menu options seems somewhat straight forward and self-explanitory. I need to get to work, but perhaps someone else has more time and can be clearer on exactly what you are looking for.
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De_Priester wrote:If you want Elanee to be a better caster instead of using the shapeshifting you can turn off the option using feats during combat. Don't remember what it's exactly called but it makes sure she no longer shapeshifts, you can also put her castermode up a notch making her a nice druid caster/healer, imho that suits her WAY better than trying to "tank". However if you are using Qara make sure you have enough tanks to pick up the slack after Elanee is no longer doing so.
Hi,
I know Margrus thinks it is self explainitory but I cannot figure out how to switch the shapeshifting OFF. I believe it is called Wild Animal under Feats but how to you de-select it?

Also you mention putting castermode up a notch. There is a control function (where Puppet mode is). Is that what you mean?
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I think I figured it out now - I hope. :rolleyes:

No I haven't. Would someone PLEASE tell me how to disable morphing.
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What exactly didn't you understand in my post above? To be clear, I don't mean to be rude in this, but I simply don't have a lot of time. If you clarify what you do not grasp, I will take the time to clarify what I meant. I have been in your situation before, and I know it is frustrating, but unfortunately, real life calls, and I don't get paid for this. So, every bit of effort you make in being clear makes it easier on me to volunteer information that is both specific and tailored to answer your question. :)
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Magrus wrote:What exactly didn't you understand in my post above? To be clear, I don't mean to be rude in this, but I simply don't have a lot of time. If you clarify what you do not grasp, I will take the time to clarify what I meant. I have been in your situation before, and I know it is frustrating, but unfortunately, real life calls, and I don't get paid for this. So, every bit of effort you make in being clear makes it easier on me to volunteer information that is both specific and tailored to answer your question. :)
Sorry if I wound you up, I wasn't meaning to honestly. :angel:

My query which I think was more me not understanding was how do you turn off morphing?

I was under the impression that there was a way of disabling this one feat but I now think you have to disable the use of using ALL feats. Am I correct here?
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You didn't bother me, I've just been told I tend to offend people here when I request more information and provide my reason for doing so. I figured I would make myself clear. The bottom line was, I'm no mind reader, I can't grasp what people do and do not know without being told.

That being said, an answer to your question is: Yes. You need to shut off the characters use of ALL feats in order to get them to stop using a particular feat. In short, I would suggest doing what I did. Switch the druid to Puppet Mode and control her until you get to the point in the game where you can choose to switch her out of your party. Say goodbye and good riddence.

When she reaches a higher level, I think 11th or so, I could be remembering wrong, she will be able to wild shape into a larger form. However, even with the shape of a bear or tiger, the AI is horrid. You will still end up with a druid that acts stupid and gets killed. Druids can be incredibly powerful if made well. However, that includes playing them well and the game's AI doesn't do that at all.
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kajjax wrote:...also, was not able to get her to remove a spell from her list and replace it with haste on the level up - interface.
If it's any consolation, I have had the same problem with Grobnar. I find if I scroll through his entire spellbook there might be one or two currently memorized spells that have an arrow light up. And those are the only ones that you can de-select to replace with something else. The good news is these swappable spells seem to be different every time I leveled him up, so if you keep her around you may eventually be able to swap out a 3rd level spell to get haste.

As another tactic, wizards can select lower level spells when leveling up instead of the highest level possible. E.g., on gaining 5th level a wizard should get 2 new 3rd level spells. Actually you can select 2 new spells from any level 1-3. I've never tried it with a sorcerer or bard, but it might be worth a shot if you really, really want haste.
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