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Gothic III: tried it yet?

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C-K'R[PhoEniX] wrote:Wow, sounds like it's actually playable on your system. My system also has 512 MB RAM and it's unplayable even on low settings (graphic card GeForce 6800GT 256 MB, AMD Athlon 64 3000+ 2.0Ghz). Ashen also says it runs fine on his system. Why is it so slow on mine :( ? My computer runs all the other games fine, even Oblivion.
512MB is definitely below the minimum (they specifically asked for 1GB as the minimum). However, try this .INI file tweak if you haven't aready:

the best and optimal settings for 1GB PCs on "medium" <-- here ! [Archiv] - JoWooD Forum

I have a 1.2GB system, and is running at acceptable frame rate after the tweak. I don't know how well it will help for 512MB system, but worth a try.
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blueray wrote:512MB is definitely below the minimum (they specifically asked for 1GB as the minimum). However, try this .INI file tweak if you haven't aready:

the best and optimal settings for 1GB PCs on "medium" <-- here ! [Archiv] - JoWooD Forum

I have a 1.2GB system, and is running at acceptable frame rate after the tweak. I don't know how well it will help for 512MB system, but worth a try.
Erm, I went to Aspyr's website a while back and they mentioned specifically that 512MB is the minimum and the recommended is 1GB (link). However, I do agree that 1GB is recommended for this game. About that tweak, I am slightly wary about tinkering with the .ini file. Afraid that it might cause problems.
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what I read from the gothic 3 readme file is, the minimum is 1GB and recommended is 2GB. I was cursing the developer when I red about that, as I only have 768MB back then. Even with 768MB, the game is unplayable at all low. frame rate at single digit.

Now with 1.2GB and the.INI tweak, the game is more playable, with medium, and even though I turned off shadow, there is still shadow showing when I am holding a torch...yet the frame rate still remain at 1x~2x fps. The game is only barely playable at low without the tweak at 1.2GB.

I applied the tweak, and the only effect it has on my system is, G3 is running at an acceptable frame rate (see above) with medium setting, with some eye candy enabled (I turned off vegetation, resource cache and shadow from the medium setting)

My spec: A64 3000+, 1.2GB DDR400, 2x 40GB MAxtor Diamond Max 9 7200rpm in RAID 0, R9600XT 128MB. The game still stutter badly in town, and occasionally in the wilderness.
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1,2 GB would mean that you're running two 512MB sticks and one 256MB stick? I suggest removing the 256MB stick as it might hinder the performance by preventing the other two sticks from running in dual mode etc. if you remove the 256 stick, you might see a performance increase
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It is running in dual channel mode. The POST used to report "Dual Channel Disabled" before I added the other 512MB. All the modules are DDR400 CL2.5, so I don't see any problem there. The dual channel mode will activate as long as I have 2 identical modules (or downgrade one to match the other) plugged in the DIMM1 and DIMM2, the 3rd DIMM just act as an extra bank of memory.
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I've heard quite a lot of complaints about the fighting against animals such as boars and what not. Well, the stun bug wasn't present in the demo but the problem is that they (all animals) still have that machine-gun speed attack. I managed to deal with those idiots by using a long weapon such as a spear but I sincerely do wish that there will be a patch to somehow make those animals fight at the same pace as a regular rebel/orc.
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Guys, the game eats up a lot of RAM, let's face it. I have Athlon 64x2 dual core processor 4400+ with 4 GB of RAM (2.96 usable) and the game still stutters. I mean I use the highest resolution and everything is flying just fine BUT when the hero runs and the new areas get loaded (which happens all the time) the game freezes for a couple seconds. Otherwise, no problem.

Solution: get RAM. As much as you can afford.

BTW, the learning curve for a starter fight in G3 is 5 seconds.
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Lady Dragonfly wrote:Guys, the game eats up a lot of RAM, let's face it. I have Athlon 64x2 dual core processor 4400+ with 4 GB of RAM (2.96 usable) and the game still stutters. I mean I use the highest resolution and everything is flying just fine BUT when the hero runs and the new areas get loaded (which happens all the time) the game freezes for a couple seconds. Otherwise, no problem.

Solution: get RAM. As much as you can afford.
It's more like this game still have memory leak issues. I've heard quite a lot of complaints from players in a number of forums I visited, including JoWood's forum as well. I know getting more RAM will considerably help for a game like this but to be honest, the fact that players with 1GB and above even encountered crash problems does make me question the stability of this game.

I sincerely do hope this memory leak issue will be resolved as soon as possible. Even graphically demanding games like Company of Heroes which requires 512MB as minimum and 1GB as recommended can run on my rig fairly fine without any crash problems (there are still stuttering problems when playing the game).

UPDATE: Okay, I recently encountered some graphical glitches when playing the Gothic 3 demo after updating my Nvidia Forceware drivers from 91.47 to 93.71 (My card is Nvidia, by the way). My advice is not to update to 93.71 and just stick to 91.47 version of the driver.
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DesR85 wrote:UPDATE: Okay, I recently encountered some graphical glitches when playing the Gothic 3 demo after updating my Nvidia Forceware drivers from 91.47 to 93.71 (My card is Nvidia, by the way). My advice is not to update to 93.71 and just stick to 91.47 version of the driver.
Okay, scratch that. My mistake. It turned out to be my graphics driver problem. Doing a clean install of it pretty much fixes everything. ;)

I want to do an update on my playing status. After upgrading my computer's memory to 1GB and upgraded my video card to a GALAXY Geforce 6600 (256MB), the game ran much smoother than previously, though there are still noticeable hitching at places (more hitching when entering towns and villages) and my computer froze at one point, forcing a restart. Doesn't feel like it's worth it to upgrade but at least I can play other games much better. :)
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