Does alignment matter?

Darth Zion · Post by **Darth Zion** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:10 pm

I've been hearing for years that you should never be a gray jedi. Does it really matter? Does anything different happen when you're neutral, rather than being light or dark?

BlueSky · Post by **BlueSky** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:35 pm

The one time I tried to play as a more or less neutral character...I found that the story line and choices the game made you take, tended to push your character towards one side or the other.

Ergophobia · Post by **Ergophobia** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:09 pm

Some events can only happen when your character has reached a certain point along the alignment scale... I believe Visas Marr won't show up until you've reached 25% in either Dark or Light.

Also, if you're not about 75% Light/Dark you cannot gain a prestige class. The tomb on Korriban is another issue, you might even need Mastery to gain access.

Darth Zion · Post by **Darth Zion** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:06 pm

I do remember not being able to enter the tomb because I wasn't dark enough, and I exhausted all ways to get darker on one of my files... Has anybody beat the game as neutral?

triline beta · Post by **triline beta** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:24 pm

Never beaten it as neutral, but I have gotten different endings based on alignment. also, alignment seems to affect how your character looks. If you get totally evil you look like Sion.

walterd140 · Post by **walterd140** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:46 am

I've taken the game as neutral. No prestige class allowed for them. Also, no cave on Korraban. But the cave is a side quest & does not need to be completed to finish the game. Also, endings about the same as light / dark.

The only other thing I can think of is the 'your crystal' is less powerful then choosing a side.

Walter

Ergophobia · Post by **Ergophobia** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:06 am

Actually, IMO the neutral crystal is the only reward for taking the neutral path... that one gives a lot more stat boosts, plus quite a score of force immunity. Especially when using double lightsabers this crystal is absolutely awesome.

The crystals for half-dark and half-light are worst though. They are like the full-light and full-dark crystals but miss out on one bonus. (mass criticals and damage vs. dark side)

Cyro · Post by **Cyro** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:32 am

Darth Zion wrote:I do remember not being able to enter the tomb because I wasn't dark enough, and I exhausted all ways to get darker on one of my files... Has anybody beat the game as neutral?

I have, It's basically the same as light side but without the prestige class and Korriban tomb...

DesR85 · Post by **DesR85** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:35 am

Ergophobia wrote:Actually, IMO the neutral crystal is the only reward for taking the neutral path... that one gives a lot more stat boosts, plus quite a score of force immunity. Especially when using double lightsabers this crystal is absolutely awesome.

Where did you come by this crystal?

The last time I played this game, I have never encountered this crystal before.

Cyro · Post by **Cyro** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:49 am

DesR85 wrote:Where did you come by this crystal? The last time I played this game, I have never encountered this crystal before.

I believe he's referring to the <player_name> Crystal, when set to neutral.

Ergophobia · Post by **Ergophobia** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:42 pm

He was. Anyways, for kicks:

Light Side Mastery:
STR +5
DEX +6
WIS +7
Attack +3
Damage +5 Light Side
Damage +10 vs. Dark Side

Dark Side Mastery:
STR +7
DEX +5
CHA +6
Attack +3
Damage +5 Dark Side
Massive Criticals +3-30

Neutral:
STR +4
DEX +4
CON +5
WIS +5
CHA +4
Attack +3
Force Resist +24

(you can easily check this using the console to add the items - I'm unsure about when you'd get a 'neutral' crystal though... perhaps somewhere between -10 and +10 or so)

Darth Zion · Post by **Darth Zion** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:19 pm

So if you end the game neutral, you don't get any special movies or items except the <your name> crystal?Also, what happens if you kill all the jedi masters, but you turn at least 3/4 good by the rebuilt enclave?

Dra'Lion · Post by **Dra'Lion** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:08 am

Ergophobia wrote:Some events can only happen when your character has reached a certain point along the alignment scale... I believe Visas Marr won't show up until you've reached 25% in either Dark or Light.

Also, if you're not about 75% Light/Dark you cannot gain a prestige class. The tomb on Korriban is another issue, you might even need Mastery to gain access.

In my experience Visas Marr sneaks on the Ebon Hawk the moment I land on any planet after I leave Telos.
It might be possible that it will be 25% Dark or Light, but never checked that, I am quite dedicated to either side when I wish so might be possible.

I also think that the 75% for prestige class might be true, but I was 100% Light at lvl 12 and was not able to get prestige class yet.
Could be level restriction...
It could be a constant coinsidance but I always seem to get them at lvl 15 no matter my allignment...

Anyone has this problem aswell?

The tomb of korriban I was about 90% dark and I came out 100% dark...

Or 70-75% light and almost neutral...

Ergophobia · Post by **Ergophobia** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:52 am

You can only get a prestige class at 15. No matter how strongly aligned you are.

(I always forget to talk to Kreia at 15 and end up taking it at 16)

Cyro · Post by **Cyro** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:19 am

You can finish the game at neutral after taking all the bonuses from light/dark side. I finished as a neutral Guardian/Sith Lord on one occasion. I also went into the caves as light sided.

Drunkside · Post by **Drunkside** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:18 am

Dra'Lion wrote:In my experience Visas Marr sneaks on the Ebon Hawk the moment I land on any planet after I leave Telos.
It might be possible that it will be 25% Dark or Light, but never checked that, I am quite dedicated to either side when I wish so might be possible.

Visas does come after the cutscene where she leaves the Ravager. It is triggered when you are 25% to light or dark side.

Drunkside · Post by **Drunkside** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:37 am

you can get the light side ending with 100% darkj char, and vice versa.

(i tried to edit my last post, but there is that FEAR popup in the way of sending button

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Darth Zion · Post by **Darth Zion** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:49 pm

So what happens if you stay neutral, and never get Visas? Will it make the game unbeatable?

Ergophobia · Post by **Ergophobia** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:24 am

No, you don't NEED Visas to finish the game, really.

Darth_Ruin · Post by **Darth_Ruin** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:34 am

Ergophobia wrote:No, you don't NEED Visas to finish the game, really.

Of course you dont. You dont need anyone. You are POWERFUL enough alone.

Chris (Darth_Ruin)