Level 20 by end of Endar Spire (xbox)

Darth_Ruin · Post by **Darth_Ruin** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 5:03 am

This method can give you enough experience to be level 20 before you leave the Endar Spire.
The method requires lots of patience, however.
When you come to the last door between you and Carth you will notice after the conversation you gain 250 exp.
As soon as you open the door, immediatley hit start, save and then load what you have just saved and the door will remain closed, but you will still talk to Carth, and gain the 250 exp to boot.
Now you have to repeat this process to the level desired, although the patience element kicks in as it takes about 700 times to do it, if you want 190000 xp (level 20).
This method is best if you are a consular, light or dark, as you can hold the levels so that you are level 2 ____ and level 18 jedi consular, meaning that when you become a jedi you will have lots of force points and around a selection of 23 force powers.
I apologise if this has been posted before i just thought it might help people who are on the xbox and cannot do all the cheats for the PC version.
I hope this helps.

Chris (Darth_Ruin)

DesR85 · Post by **DesR85** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:20 am

Thank you for the information, Darth Ruin. As far as I know, I don't think this information was ever posted here before. This will be one good way to avoid the 'Cheat Used' screen on the save game (I don't like to cheat in games, by the way).

Darth_Ruin · Post by **Darth_Ruin** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:43 am

Thats not a problem mate.
Yeah i dont like cheating myself but to find new things you have to experiment i guess.

Once again i hope this helps.

Chris (Darth_Ruin)

galraen · Post by **galraen** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:56 am

You mean you don't consider this cheating? Amazing!:speech:

Tricky · Post by **Tricky** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:08 am

Um.. what's there to experiment about 700 repeated action? I had no idea Xboxes could be turned into Skinner boxes.

DesR85 · Post by **DesR85** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:37 am

galraen wrote:You mean you don't consider this cheating? Amazing!:speech:

Make that a game exploit.

When you type in codes to get something (i.e. Invincibility or others), then that's cheating, in my opinion. The only game exploit I ever used was the buy/sell trick in Fable: The Lost Chapters.

Drunkside · Post by **Drunkside** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:37 am

This is just using bug for your advantage(or greater good, if you want to say it so)

:laugh:

Darth_Ruin · Post by **Darth_Ruin** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:39 am

Tricky wrote:Um.. what's there to experiment about 700 repeated action? I had no idea Xboxes could be turned into Skinner boxes.

If you have nothing nice to say then please bug off or be referred to the moderators

Chris (Darth_Ruin)

mr_sir · Post by **mr_sir** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:57 am

Darth_Ruin wrote:This method can give you enough experience to be level 20 before you leave the Endar Spire.

I'm just being curious here and don't mean this offensively at all, but why would you want to be level 20 before you leave the Endar Spire? As it was, without holding levels or cheating at all, I was level 20 long before the end of the game and to be honest I really don't understand why you would want to make it so you level up so fast. Part of the fun of the games for me is slowly building up the character a bit at a time, and the game is so easy anyway that being level 18 jedi would just make it tedious from my point of view.

Darth_Ruin · Post by **Darth_Ruin** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:01 am

Once again. I said that this is something that i found out, not something that i have used many times. I have only used it once to see the effects it brought.

And, i myself, like you, also found it tedious.

Yet perhaps someone will enjoy it. Or maybe not.

Chris (Darth_Ruin)

DarthBob · Post by **DarthBob** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:51 am

Even though it would be a bit boring, at least you wn't worry abut diying any tme untill the stare forge quests do you?

Tricky · Post by **Tricky** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:01 pm

Not playing the game would serve that purpose just fine. Seriously, where is the fun without a little challenge? I suppose one must be from the IDDQD generation to have discovered such existential truths.

Darth_Ruin · Post by **Darth_Ruin** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:42 pm

Nah im not a fan of Doom myself...and i have never really experimented with the 'God Code'.

Seriously if you guys have nothing better to do than question my motives then you must lead pretty sad lives.

At least im trying to help people out.

Is this how you treat all new members?

Chris (Darth_Ruin)

mr_sir · Post by **mr_sir** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 1:41 pm

I'm not trying to question your motives, I am just genuinely interested in the things other people enjoy about games. I personally would not enjoy playing at the max level from the start so I'm just interested to understand why other people do. Its not a personal attack on you or how you choose to play as everyone is entitled to play the game however they choose. Your initial post is great and I'm pretty sure lots of people will find it helpful

I'm just being curious about what people enjoy about being such a high level the entire game and just generally being nosey

Cuchulain82 · Post by **Cuchulain82** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:30 pm

What happens if you take all the levels on the endar spire? I'm sure you'd destroy everyone in the first part of the game, but then later, when you're automatically given the Jedi level... what happens? Have you tried? Will it break the game?

Tricky · Post by **Tricky** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 3:33 pm

Darth_Ruin wrote:Nah im not a fan of Doom myself...and i have never really experimented with the 'God Code'.

Seriously if you guys have nothing better to do than question my motives then you must lead pretty sad lives.

At least im trying to help people out.

Is this how you treat all new members?

Chris (Darth_Ruin)

You have a very.. distorted perception of other people. I was barely teasing, so excuse me while I go find someone else to talk to.

Darth_Ruin · Post by **Darth_Ruin** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:15 am

Cuchulain82 wrote:What happens if you take all the levels on the endar spire? I'm sure you'd destroy everyone in the first part of the game, but then later, when you're automatically given the Jedi level... what happens? Have you tried? Will it break the game?

if you do happen to take all the levels on the endar spire then you do not break the game or destroy everyone. You just cannot become a Jedi, or unfortunately wield your trusty lightsaber.
This happened the first time that i tried it. Therefore i have not tried it again. The second and last time that i tried it i stayed at level 2 throughout Taris, which i managed by using the support of the other characters, who i did level up. I then levelled up 18 levels as a Jedi Consular, had around 360 force points and 23 force powers.

Chris (Darth_Ruin)

LoRd-ReVaN · Post by **LoRd-ReVaN** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:37 pm

how, how, how did u find the time to speak save load repeat 700 times. you could probably win the game in that time. I would be interested to know how long it took you to do that.

Bob Dole176 · Post by **Bob Dole176** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:37 pm

galraen wrote:You mean you don't consider this cheating? Amazing!:speech:

Well it can be considered cheating, but it can also help people out ALOT. I don't consider it cheating, because cheating is more like, for example, putting in a code to have infinite health by pressing a combonation of maybe 10 buttons or so. Not really trying to give an effort. With this method, it takes a long time. You have to give it alot of effort to use it. That's the difference between this and using cheat codes, I think.

Darth_Ruin wrote:Once again. I said that this is something that i found out, not something that i have used many times. I have only used it once to see the effects it brought.

And, i myself, like you, also found it tedious.

Yet perhaps someone will enjoy it. Or maybe not.

Chris (Darth_Ruin)

I think that it's great that you found this glitch.

It could help alot of people, instead of making the game too boring. For example, you don't have to level up to level 20, right? I heard from some of my friends that the game's too hard, especially in the beginning, so if they leveled up to level 5 or so, it could help them get past some of the tough spots in the beginning and get a headstart. Also, how will anyone ever discover anything if they don't experiment? It makes me a little angry that people would criticise you for making a discovery that can help so many new people.

Syp-342 · Post by **Syp-342** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:51 am

Bob Dole176 wrote:Well it can be considered cheating, but it can also help people out ALOT. I don't consider it cheating, because cheating is more like, for example, putting in a code to have infinite health by pressing a combonation of maybe 10 buttons or so. Not really trying to give an effort. With this method, it takes a long time. You have to give it alot of effort to use it. That's the difference between this and using cheat codes, I think.

:speech: Well cheating isn't just about using a "cheat code". I mean, it's not because there is not the name "cheat" in it that it cant be consider cheating

Lets get thing straigh. What is cheating? "Cheating is defined as an act of lying, deception, fraud, trickery, imposture, or imposition. Cheating characteristically is employed to create an unfair advantage, usually in one's own interest, and often at the expense of others. Cheating implies the breaking of rules "(definition from wikipedia)

Now, getting lvl 20 with a glitch is certainly 'creating an unfair advantage'. Also, you are breaking the in-game rule, by gaining unlimited exp for a single action

Bob Dole176 wrote:For example, you don't have to level up to level 20, right? I heard from some of my friends that the game's too hard, especially in the beginning, so if they leveled up to level 5 or so, it could help them get past some of the tough spots in the beginning and get a headstart.

Well maybe I got it all wrong, but i think your NPCs will be of higher lvl when you meet them. That would help a lot to hold all level up for your main character and that could be very helpful! And yes I agree with you that it could help a lot some people !