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New RPG, Thought out opinions please.

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Gonna get a new RPG here soon, but out of the few that I have, I'm not sure what to get. Now, the thread title is harsh but I do ask for people to NOT post "Get this game because it's the best." That is not an opinion to me, it has no support and it doesn't convince me why it's the greatest. So do note that even if you do decide to post something short and non convincing as "it's the best and all the other's suck," then I probably won't give enough thought to respond to it let alone ask why it's the best.

So,

Jade Empire: It's coming out for PC soon and I'm getting a new Video card. Now, I have heard good things about this and rarely anything bad, BUT I will say that I'm not a fan of bioware and it's third rate dumbed down storylines that a child can understand. But like I said, I've heard some good things.

Gothic III: Lots of bugs, but it's also very open ended correct? Gothic two was enjoyable but the controls were near impossible to deal with, is Gothic three better and even if it is, has the gameplay and story or anything been desecrated?

Two Worlds: This game actually looks REALLY good, but not a lot on it and no background for the company. I don't know a lot about the company who's making this game and whether or not they're reputable for semi-decent games, but as I said, it looks REALLY good.

Out of those three games, which would more than likely be the best choice for buying? And please keep it to these three, I've looked into other games myself already and these are still by far the most appealing.
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Post by Celos »

Get Jade Empire, because it's the best and all other games suck.

Sorry .. couldn't resist.

Anyways, I suggest not buying Gothic III. This is coming from a fan-boy of the Gothic series, mind you. I and II would be on my 'Greatest Games Ever' list if I actually wrote one. However, the third installment is pretty flawed. Graphical glitches and bugs I can deal with and even though many reviews claim to have seen too many, I actually have seen very few. That's not the issue. They've utterly destroyed the characters. Mr. Nameless is lacking exactly one personality and all the other companions that you took with you play an insignificant role. Way too insignificant.
The storyline is as basic as ever. Bad things need killin'. The missions get pretty dull after a while and you won't be presented with a reason to return to any of the cities you've dealt with. Do quests, go to the next town and do some more quests. That'll repeat throughout the game. GI and GII had worlds that seemingly changed without your involvement (think chapters). GIII doesn't have that and it ruins the feeling you should get when playing Gothic.
Decent game, but taking into account what I've heard about Jade Empire (IGN Score: 9.9) and Two Worlds, it's definitely not the game you want.

edit: By the way, what's with the Bioware bashing?
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By the way, what's with the Bioware bashing?
Doesn't matter the company name, I judge them by what they produce. For instance, I hated mac's because before OS-X came out, they were clunky to work with and didn't run games as well as a PC would, but OS-X came out and that changed a lot of things (aside from the gaming of course).

There's room for improvement, but bioware has really destroyed my faith in what they consider dungeons and dragons or RPG.

Anyways, thanks for the info about gothic.
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Not only that but also Gothic 3 is filled with technical issues as well such as the game hanging after playing for a while and not to mention quite a lot of hitching and slowdowns especially when going through new areas. Even if your computer met the recommended system requirements, you'll still encounter the same problems. And no, not even a computer that is enough to run Company of Heroes smoothly with everything turned on will run this game fine at all. :mad:

As for the bugs, you will encounter the infamous animals and NPC going through walls (or practically anything), quest bugs, missing dialogue and a glitch where the game world seems to become some invisible void after roaming for a while to name a few. The dialogue glitch is minor but the rest are very annoying up till the point that they are game-stopping (i.e. not being able to complete a quest because of a quest bug).

In conclusion, If you are patient and willing to go through this many technical issues and the bugs in this game, then you'll be fine with this game. If not, you're better off not getting this one.
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A few glitches I can deal with, hell even if they were major glitches, but if the game is this poorly rendered together, I might as well just forget it.

Two worlds or Jade Empire, one of those two is going on my shelf for gaming, I know that for sure.

Better question since I'm mixing upcoming and already released games and such.

Jade Empire, was it decent on whatever system it was previously on? Gameplay and controls, graphics not too glitchy, etc, was it all there and in tact, or would it just not be worth it and it'd be a better idea to just wait for two worlds?
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Siberys wrote: Jade Empire, was it decent on whatever system it was previously on? Gameplay and controls, graphics not too glitchy, etc, was it all there and in tact, or would it just not be worth it and it'd be a better idea to just wait for two worlds?
From what I've read of reviews regarding Jade Empire, it ran fine on the XBox. No technical or graphical glitches whatsoever. Controls are easy to master, according to the reviews. As for the system requirements, I've read from a certain article (can't remember where) that the PC version of Jade Empire will run pretty decently on older hardware.

As for Two Worlds, it reminds me a lot of Oblivion based on what I can tell from reading a few interviews (such as this [url="http://www.firingsquad.com/news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=14064"]one[/url]) and taking a look at some of the screenshots of that game.
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Actually, from the interview, the gameplay looks a lot more linear and probably more detailed than say one random adventure after another with very little depth like oblivion had.

Open endedness is good in some RPG's, but too much of it can make the game a little dull, and I think two worlds is going to deliver a nice mesh of the two, linearity and open ended gameplay.

I didn't read that article, and now I'm more inclined to go for Two Worlds.
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Judging by your post, I'd say don't bother with Jade Empire. I'm inferring that you want a pretty immersive RP experience, and JE isn't it.

I have it for XBox, and I thoroughly enjoyed it, but it's really a fighting game with RPG trappings. For example, there's an alignment system of a sort that gets a nuanced description early on, but it in-game it boils down to "be a jerk or be a saint."

There isn't much to differentiate the 'classes'. All fighting and magic styles are available to everyone - and you need some of everything, because different monsters have different immunities (Storm Dragon style completely rules the world, though). So the characters differ only in details.

I enjoyed the hell out of it, but I didn't get a lot of RP value from Jade Empire.
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Ahh, yeah, definitely not looking for something akin to an Action RPG. Linearity is fine but I do want it to have a story that can potentially change due to your actions. So thanks, Two Worlds it is.
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Hmm, I recently got a job with some extra cash and decided to buy Jade Empire and it's way better than HandsomeDevil lead me to believe.

No, it's not as open ended as oblivion or gothic or whatnot, but it's plot and Roleplaying elements are quite immersive. The conversation system resembles that of KoTOR 2, which I loved. You actually had to pay attention to what you say, and while the distinction of good acts or evil selfish acts are a little clearer, it's still nicely thought out.

The game is quite enjoyable I must say, most definitely one I'm gonna play a couple times through, maybe even more if I like it enough.

Though, I still have money for Two Worlds, so if that's any good, it might just take over my interest. :p
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Post by DesR85 »

I've heard a lot of good things about Jade Empire (the XBox version). Hope I can get my hands on this game. :) Been pretty busy as of late. :(
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