someone spank me, i'll tell u if its right or wrong.
seriously tho,
and spanking is effective if used effectively, in teaching kids ur desired "morals" and such.
a kinda scary example, personal, so bear with me^^ : i was adopted when i was an infant, by a friend of my birth mother's family. my birth mother was 15, and was into drugs and such, and i spose decided adoption was best choice. anyways, the point is, that her mother shortly after, became conservatively religious in an extreme way, aka Menanite's (sp). my birth mother had another child about 5 years after me, which was adopted (or at least lived there his whole life so far, idk) by her mother. i've visited both, my birth mother and grandmother, mum's pretty much white trash and was on lotsa meds, and grammy, her 8 or so kids were the best behaved kids u'll ever see. i'm telling u, nothing u've seen in movies, or w/e comes even close. her husband was around, i think, when i visited, but i didnt see much of him. i'd visited once when i was 13, and once when i was 18. Grams was very loving, and always kept them busy with chores, but when i misbehaved (age 13) she swatted me with more vigor than, outside of outright beating, i've ever seen. she told me, u get 3 spankings, i thought, "this will be a breeze *^^*" but little did i know that 1 spanking = 5 swats with a monster azz wooden spoon >,<; what i'm trying to say is, while its extreme to raise kids without television, radio, video games, and with the fear of god instilled in them from an early age, physical discipline is a very reaspnable tool in shaping your childrens thinking.
and i know ppl will shake their heads at "shaping ur childrens thinking", it is a rather conservative point of view, which i dont rly agree with, but in reality, any way of parenting your kids, whether thru more "modern" ways mentioned above, shape a childs view in the same ways, if not the same ends, as any other form of discipline
and forgive me, i do have a lil bit of a devil's advocite in me, but i do think this.