I had both Vicky and K in a party and noticed that K was often getting scared itless when fighting undead. I then realised that Viconia was turning him along with the undead beasties.
as a result, I keep V and K away from each other when V is turning undead, but it is inconvenient.
anybody else noticed this?
I recall that in theory an evil cleric could turn a paladin, but had never come across it until a couple of days ago - in BG2, I don't ever have them both in the party together and in ToB, I have never noticed the problem before.
what about if Viconia was sufficiently high that the level difference was what is normally required to explode an undead? would Keldorn just pop off?
do high good clerics explode the githyanki anti-paladins?
what happens with true N clerics - do they recruit undead like evil clerics? could they turn paladins AND anti-paladins?
Viconia and Keldorn - turning it over
Viconia and Keldorn - turning it over
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Never having had Keldorn in the party beyond the point where he returns to his wife I never experienced the turning phenomenon. I was quite amused at reading your experience.
Neutral clerics act exactly the same as good clerics when it comes to undead, no control option, just turn or destroy. Incidentally, the destroy undead is another poor implimentation by Bioware, high level undead, such as Vampires and Liches shouldn't be destroyable.
As for Vici, when I've had her in my party she's been converted to Neutral by the end of the first 'quest' in ToB, so even had Keldorn been with me I doubt I would have had the turning experience, I gather you're not romancing her.
Neutral clerics act exactly the same as good clerics when it comes to undead, no control option, just turn or destroy. Incidentally, the destroy undead is another poor implimentation by Bioware, high level undead, such as Vampires and Liches shouldn't be destroyable.
As for Vici, when I've had her in my party she's been converted to Neutral by the end of the first 'quest' in ToB, so even had Keldorn been with me I doubt I would have had the turning experience, I gather you're not romancing her.
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I often play female PCs, as I find my portraits of them are more visually pleasing than of males.
the PC this time is a female wild-mage named Shannon (after the river), so as there is no girl-on-girl love action (the developers had not read any Sarah Waters), the romance bit was/is missing. Vici is a high CHA NPC in my view - the portraits don't appear to coincide with the visual attractiveness of NPCs.
I can't recall if any of my male PCs (played more often before I started doing my own portraits) romanced Vici in ToB enough to get the alignment change. she is a difficult romance, as her reactions are 'challenging' and it is not always easy to predict what works best. (I haven't checked out the 'right' responses)
I like having Vici wander into a host of shadow fiends and have them come onto our side.
I'm not sure if immunity from fear would stop Keldorn being turned - I'll have to check that out some time.
the PC this time is a female wild-mage named Shannon (after the river), so as there is no girl-on-girl love action (the developers had not read any Sarah Waters), the romance bit was/is missing. Vici is a high CHA NPC in my view - the portraits don't appear to coincide with the visual attractiveness of NPCs.
I can't recall if any of my male PCs (played more often before I started doing my own portraits) romanced Vici in ToB enough to get the alignment change. she is a difficult romance, as her reactions are 'challenging' and it is not always easy to predict what works best. (I haven't checked out the 'right' responses)
I like having Vici wander into a host of shadow fiends and have them come onto our side.
I'm not sure if immunity from fear would stop Keldorn being turned - I'll have to check that out some time.
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