Katana stealing Kensai from Mod *Spoiler?*

[Elessar]

Celestial Fury is my favorite weapon in the game and now that I have Item Upgrade Mod I wanted to get the weapon at the earliest and upgrade it.
I managed to beat the group and loot the katana when my party was at an average level of around 10. I then went to De'Arnise keep, defeated Improved Torgal and brought the average level of my party (which consist of my Berserker/thief, Minsc, Keldorn, Jan, Aerie and Kelsey) close to 11.

I encountered the Katana stealing Kensai (dont remember his name) as soon as I came back to slums from the keep. The maniac is crazy hard - has about 5-6 (?) attacks a round, keeps casting protected from magical weapons, stoneskin, mirror-image and the like, has high magic resistance, Acid Backlash which fires a Melfs Acid Arrow when someone does manage to hit him and what not. He keeps going straight for the mages (jan, aerie and kelsey) first and my tanks are not able to touch/backstab him . this happens after the 8hour or so travel from the keep, so i cant have any protections on except stoneskin which is not much help with the number of attacks he does. he also actually seems faster than my hasted characters. I made quite a few attempts using Normal weapons/truesight/breach but the most i could do was get him to Barely Injured. :speech:

Am I at too low a level to beat him? Will he still attack me if I do not have Celestial fury in my inventory? Any ideas/clues to defeat this guy would be a great help would be a great help. Thanks in advance

[GawainBS]

Have you casted Breach on him? That should take care of his protections, while Lower Resistance takes care of his high Magic Resistance. Also, a screen of summoned monster might buy you a crucial round or two.
I hope this helps.

[Thrifalas]

First of all, negating the Acid Backlash is very helpfull. Protection from Acid of any form should stop it, as well as anything negating a Melf's Acid Arrow such as Globe of invulnerability.

I've also heard that he starts out with protection from elementals, but doesn't recast it. That means that after one breach elemental damage should kill him even though he recast all other spells.

Anyway, yeah, this guy is technically showing off how overpowered a kensai/mage who knows his defensive spells really can be. And has a really cheesy weapon...

[kmonster]

Can't you just run away ?

[Julian]

Not that I know the mod but to me it sounds like this Kensai shows up and steals his celestial fury and he must kill him to get it back. If that is the case he cant very well run away.

Just my guess.

On the other hand, you could justify(rp-wise) blasting him to smithereens with your god powers. Nice rule of thumb for cheating in BG

[Elessar]

No, he does not take the celestial fury right away. he will only after he kills you (which makes sense as he is not a thief and cant pickpocket my weapon). i probably could run away but i dont want to...

if he doesnt recast protection from elements, then there is hope still i guess. I didnt realize that. but he just doesnt give enough time for my mages to cause enough damage. also my mages are not of high-enough level to have sequencers and triggers. aeire is about level10/9 or so, jan about 11/9 and kelsey about 10 or 11. and my tanks are not able to cause considerable damage to him either if at all they get any hits.

the more i hear about his cheesy weapon, the more i want to kill him as I love katanas and that frustrates me guess I am like him in that sense

[Thrifalas]

Try firetooth and equip regular arrows. From what I've heard, the regular arrows will not be stopped by Pro-MW and the fire from the weapon will burn him right through. Ofc you must dispel Elem prot first.

[Julian]

You mentioned that you go straight from De'arniese keep. You could always buff up in another district in town.

Does the Kensai himself use True Seeing/ see invisbilty spell? You could try drinking invis with your casters to not get him attacking your casters right away. I guess you have Vhaliors Helm, remember to use it and have a few nasty use items on Minsc to fire off some exspensie use items, always find having a double helps.

Any chance you could get a miscast magic or silence in on him to stop his buffing?

[rbeverjr]

Well, you can use the mightiest tool available to the player to succeed - reload. If you metagame, and prepare protections and strategy to beat him, you will probably succeed. Firetooth, even that crossbow that does only 1 point of fire damage can also help. The easiest way (which I wouldn't use) is to cast one of the green Protection from Magic scrolls on him, then just beat him to death. The acid katana is really no fun. It is far too powerful.

[Thrifalas]

Well yeah, casting Scroll of Protection from Magic surely is the best way to beat him... it's the best way to beat any spellcaster in the game, it's kind of a freewin actually.

I, myself, prefer to save those scrolls for the ascension final battle, seeing how there's only two in the whole game. And yes, using them multiple times with clones is just like walking through the game and ctrl+y everything that casts a spell.

Anyway, if you protect yourself properly (acid, magical weapons) Kuroisan really isn't that big of a deal compared to some of the harder modded challenges.

[Elessar]

thanks for tips guys.

Thrifalas: Well yeah, casting Scroll of Protection from Magic surely is the best way to beat him... it's the best way to beat any spellcaster in the game, it's kind of a freewin actually.

I, myself, prefer to save those scrolls for the ascension final battle, seeing how there's only two in the whole game. And yes, using them multiple times with clones is just like walking through the game and ctrl+y everything that casts a spell.

My thought too. I dont mind using simulacrum for using the characters skills but to use wands and scrolls in such a way is not to my liking

Julian: You mentioned that you go straight from De'arniese keep. You could always buff up in another district in town.

Kuroisan appears in the place I travel to right after leaving the keep.

For now, i have uninstalled that part of the mod but I will reinstall it before paying the shadow thiefs and try again. hopefully i will be a couple of levels higher then and also get a few choice items. right now jan, aerie and kelsey last precisely 1 round each against him. so i am not able to dish out much elemental damage. i dont have vhailors helm yet or any means to cast simulacrum.
will let you guys know when i fight him again...

thanks for your help

[rbeverjr]

Well yeah, casting Scroll of Protection from Magic surely is the best way to beat him... it's the best way to beat any spellcaster in the game, it's kind of a freewin actually.

I, myself, prefer to save those scrolls for the ascension final battle, seeing how there's only two in the whole game. And yes, using them multiple times with clones is just like walking through the game and ctrl+y everything that casts a spell.

Anyway, if you protect yourself properly (acid, magical weapons) Kuroisan really isn't that big of a deal compared to some of the harder modded challenges.

I used the scroll to beat Kangaxx in the past because I felt like limitless trap the soul deserved some counter cheese. That's it. I've only played Ascension once, and it was in conjunction with Improved Anvil (IA) 4.2. Ascension's final battle was relaxing compared to the IA's divine epic encounter. I haven't used those scrolls at all in several games. It's not even available for use in IA 5 (except as a crafting ingredient). However, those scrolls can help players who are just learning BG2 tactics.

Kuroisan is a big deal for some players *at party level 10.* Just follow the advice to protect yourself from acid and pay careful attention to the combat log read out. But leave the acid katana on the ground. Seriously, if you are good enough to get it with a party level of 10, then you don't need it.

[Thrifalas]

I used the scroll to beat Kangaxx in the past because I felt like limitless trap the soul deserved some counter cheese. That's it. I've only played Ascension once, and it was in conjunction with Improved Anvil (IA) 4.2. Ascension's final battle was relaxing compared to the IA's divine epic encounter. I haven't used those scrolls at all in several games. It's not even available for use in IA 5 (except as a crafting ingredient). However, those scrolls can help players who are just learning BG2 tactics.

"Divine epic" encounter? Sounds delightfully challenging. Care to mail me with some more info about it, such as what it is, where it is, how you get there and what you're facing? Just some general information as I didn't find that when looking at the IA readme.

Sorry for the OT. ;o