Stop Uwe Boll From Making Movies

Siberys · Post by **Siberys** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:58 pm

Stop Dr. Uwe Boll Petition

Many of you (and I emphasize the word many), find Uwe Bolls work to be utter crap and you really wish he'd just stop making movies.

Well, here's your chance if you didn't know about it. He said 1 million signatures in a petition would get him to stop making movies. We're at nearly 200,000, so lets keep it rolling people!

Tricky · Post by **Tricky** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:07 pm

Well he's crap I agree, but come on. I'm sure he's having fun with the mere idea of one million people going through the trouble of signing that petition against him.

ross12694 · Post by **ross12694** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:11 pm

talk about a strong opinion lol.

dragon wench · Post by **dragon wench** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:43 pm

Much as I really dislike this guy's stuff...
I don't sign petitions unless they are actually meaningful. IMO, this particular (publicity) stunt ridicules and invalidates the entire notion of a petition.

Besides, on a slightly different note, it's not as though we are being led in shackles to the movie theatre. There is absolutely nothing forcing us to go and see the crap Boll produces.

DesR85 · Post by **DesR85** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:45 pm

True, I find him to be a lousy director but will he really stop just because of a petition? The one thing I find strange about this guy is that no matter how bad his movies are, he's still in the movie business. Hell, they didn't even sell that well at all, and yet, he won't give up.

Siberys · Post by **Siberys** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:17 pm

dragon wench wrote:Much as I really dislike this guy's stuff...
I don't sign petitions unless they are actually meaningful. IMO, this particular (publicity) stunt ridicules and invalidates the entire notion of a petition.

Besides, on a slightly different note, it's not as though we are being led in shackles to the movie theatre. There is absolutely nothing forcing us to go and see the crap Boll produces.

I hate to say this, but unfortunately, that's how a lot of college student unregistered voters feel. They think that their one vote won't do a damn thing to get what they want, so they decide before hand that it's not worth the time. Unfortunately, for voting, I can see this, but for signing a petition that takes less than ten seconds to do, I cannot.

ross12694 · Post by **ross12694** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:53 pm

Its not like he will be like "a one million signature petition for me to stop making movies and stop getting profit by some guy in a forum?!?!?!?!? man, i never knew......i will stop making movies for the sake of a million kids and my house and my family!". Although some of us wish that would happen this petition doesnt make a difference. I do agree with you though.
Good luck with your petition mate.

All The Best,
Ross

dragon wench · Post by **dragon wench** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:33 pm

Siberys wrote:I hate to say this, but unfortunately, that's how a lot of college student unregistered voters feel. They think that their one vote won't do a damn thing to get what they want, so they decide before hand that it's not worth the time. Unfortunately, for voting, I can see this, but for signing a petition that takes less than ten seconds to do, I cannot.

Er no Sib, that's not what I meant at all, and I'm not thinking like an apathetic college student.

OK, to put this perhaps more clearly. I do not participate in trivial, unimportant petitions. And that is what the whole thing is, trivial and insignificant.
It's not that I feel my "vote" might not count, I simply do not see this as an issue worth signing a petition over. Rather, petitions like this invalidate the concept of what a petition means.
If somebody asks me to sign a petition gathering support to prevent the destruction of a watershed, or if they are asking me to sign a petition protesting human rights abuses in places like China or Guatamala... I will do so gladly. Anything like that, and I'm pleased to give my signature.

But this? You've got to be kidding me.

Sure, the guy produces crap, but like I said, you are not being forced to go out and watch his movies. And other than offending basic aesthetics and good taste, he's not really hurting anyone.
Besides, if we were to start petitioning against every bit of junk ever created for the screen... the garbage can would be overflowing

C-K'R[PhoEniX] · Post by **C-K'R[PhoEniX]** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:01 am

Eh, this petition was made for fun - not everything has to be deep-minded and important. It's not like someone is going to question my signature on this by saying "Why did you do it? Why are you wasting your time?" etc.

I think his movies are solid junk, therefore I signed the petition. It will be interesting to see how many people share my opinion, lest it doesn't have any impact on Mr. Boll's moviemaking.

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:05 am

Couldn't care less if he makes movies or not. If I do not like a movie, I - you know - simply do not watch it. I wouldn't want to impose my subjective opinion about their works on them, as I wouldn't like the opposite.

If his movies are against the law, then it must be the law who deals with them - if not, well, then I would rather support a petition encouraging him to make more movies, then the reverse.

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:01 pm

DW] I don't sign petitions unless they are actually meaningful. IMO wrote:
Besides, on a slightly different note, it's not as though we are being led in shackles to the movie theatre. There is absolutely nothing forcing us to go and see the crap Boll produces.

Siberys, post: 989393" wrote:I hate to say this, but unfortunately, that's how a lot of college student unregistered voters feel. They think that their one vote won't do a damn thing to get what they want, so they decide before hand that it's not worth the time. Unfortunately, for voting, I can see this, but for signing a petition that takes less than ten seconds to do, I cannot.
ROFLMAO Siberys, you are the funniest guy on Gamebanshee

Regarding the actual petition, I agree with DW, Xan and others that if you don't like a movie, don't see it. A petition is something I sign to demonstrate my opinions about a cause that needs support. That's sort of the point with petitions. You support people who need it, you try to influence because those in need has limited or no possibilities to influence things themselves. A petition for something that is altogether an individual choice that does no actual harm, is just parody and therefore uninteresting to me.

Siberys · Post by **Siberys** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:23 pm

ROFLMAO Siberys, you are the funniest guy on Gamebanshee

Really, cause I wasn't trying to be funny, which leads me to believe you're being condescending in that post. Thanks.

In any case, even if this petition does nothing and doesn't actually stop him from making movies, at least it's there to show him that there really might be more than a million people who just hate his movies. Granted, it's only at 200K right now, and it may not even make it to a million, but here's the thing, it's a statement that had to be made and not just because of his movies.

Uwe Boll singlehandedly created a huge chunk of the negative stereotypes of video games being turned into movies. Yes, there were other movies before his video game movies, such as the Dungeons and Dragons movie, but the video game movies back then were sparse and not really heard of all the time. When video game movies started to come out that weren't uwe boll's but after Uwe Boll's movies came out, many were perceived as a crappy movie before even seeing it, and while this isn't totally Uwe's fault, he did have a hand in it.

So this petition to stop Uwe Boll from making crappy movies isn't just about HIS movies, it's about the stereotypes created for other similar movies.

Moonbiter · Post by **Moonbiter** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:22 pm

Siberys wrote: He said 1 million signatures in a petition would get him to stop making movies. We're at nearly 200,000, so lets keep it rolling people!

Now, just when did he say this? I'm curious, since I've been following the career of the odious mister Boll with interest for some time. What on earth makes you think he's going to stop making movies because a million spotty geeks sign a petition? Honestly, when someone forwards you a chain mail that says "Sign this mail and forward it to all your friends to stop child labour in Pago-Pago" do you think it works? Because then I have a tower for sale in Paris that might interest you...

dragon wench · Post by **dragon wench** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:26 pm

*sighs*

OK, let's honestly think about this...
The concept of making a movie out of a game....

I don't care if it is Boll or anyone else producing them, IMO it does not and can not work, period.

Games based on books or movies? Sure. But, it does not work in reverse.

The typical video game tends to be fairly thin on plot, and equally thin on personality development, the emphasis is almost entirely on action. It lacks the narrative structure required for a good movie, so what you end up with is many "fill in the blanks" between slaughtering-every-monster-in-sight scene.

The only game I can really think of that might have the potential to be turned into a decent movie is Planescape Torment, because it has an incredibly profound narrative. Beyond PS:T however, I just don't see it.
The reality is that any game (the above example excepted) is going to be garbage as a movie, it truly doesn't matter who is involved in its creation.

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:36 pm

Siberys wrote:Really, cause I wasn't trying to be funny, which leads me to believe you're being condescending in that post. Thanks.

Uwe Boll singlehandedly created a huge chunk of the negative stereotypes of video games being turned into movies. Yes, there were other movies before his video game movies, such as the Dungeons and Dragons movie, but the video game movies back then were sparse and not really heard of all the time. When video game movies started to come out that weren't uwe boll's but after Uwe Boll's movies came out, many were perceived as a crappy movie before even seeing it, and while this isn't totally Uwe's fault, he did have a hand in it.

So this petition to stop Uwe Boll from making crappy movies isn't just about HIS movies, it's about the stereotypes created for other similar movies.

I actually don't know exactly when you are trying to funny and not, Sib, but I do think that you are very funny sometimes

I don't know anything else about this Boll except that he makes bad movies. You say he singlehandedly created a massive amount of stereotypes, which stereotypes and what are the negative effects of those stereotypes? How do these Bollian stereotypes differ from existing stereotypes in our society?

Nightmare · Post by **Nightmare** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:06 pm

I actually already signed the petition about 2 weeks ago. The man is a moron and makes horrible movies, and I don't want him getting the rights to certain franchises and ruining them.

Granted the petition doesn't accomplish anything, since he won't stop making movies. He did actually say he would with a million signatures, but it was said in jest, and was done mostly for publicity to promote Postal. He's since gone back on it, I think, once he saw how fast the petition number was growing. The petition IS a meaningless exercise, but I personally believe pretty much all petitions are. Petitions about human rights, animal rights, or changing government policies almost never really accomplish anything beyond establishing a group in opposition to something, which is exactly what this petition does.

And hey, if I can be spiteful towards some moronic Hollywood rich-man, I'm going to sign the petition.

Siberys · Post by **Siberys** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:29 pm

C Elegans wrote:I actually don't know exactly when you are trying to funny and not, Sib, but I do think that you are very funny sometimes

I don't know anything else about this Boll except that he makes bad movies. You say he singlehandedly created a massive amount of stereotypes, which stereotypes and what are the negative effects of those stereotypes? How do these Bollian stereotypes differ from existing stereotypes in our society?

How about the big one, that video games turned into movies is automatically a bad idea. Not many people thought that before Boll came along, and now anyone who has seen his movies thinks this as if it were second nature.

Also...I've usually used smiley's when trying to be funny, in fact in the past 6 months to a year I've almost always done it that way. Furthermore a long diatribe disagreeing with DW should have been enough to know that I wasn't joking, especially considering how much longer you've been in SYM than me. I don't buy it when you say you didn't know.

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:12 pm

Siberys wrote:How about the big one, that video games turned into movies is automatically a bad idea. Not many people thought that before Boll came along, and now anyone who has seen his movies thinks this as if it were second nature.

But that is not a stereotype, it's simply a correct observation based on empirical data. Everyone I know, and I know a lot of people who are seriously into movies, even a few who are professional directors themselves, thought the idea was so horrible so they just crunched when it became reality. Like DW points out, it cannot work because of the inbuild limits in current computer games. When you mentioned stereotypes, I thought you also meant that his movies contained immoral, degrading or discriminating stereotypes that were in some way harmful to human life. However, seing it's only about giving a really bad idea of how to make really bad movies a bad name, then I think it's really a parody

Also...I've usually used smiley's when trying to be funny, in fact in the past 6 months to a year I've almost always done it that way. Furthermore a long diatribe disagreeing with DW should have been enough to know that I wasn't joking, especially considering how much longer you've been in SYM than me. I don't buy it when you say you didn't know.

Honestly Siberys, no offence, but sometimes I find your reasoning so strange and off so I wonder whether you are joking, or really don't get it or is a completely diffent species.

But that's another discussion, so let's leave it.

Siberys · Post by **Siberys** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:41 pm

It's not a stereotype to judge all video game movies in the same manner as you judge uwe boll video game movies? I fail to see how that isn't almost the purest definition of stereotype I've ever heard.

Kipi · Post by **Kipi** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:49 pm

dragon wench wrote:*sighs*

OK, let's honestly think about this...
The concept of making a movie out of a game....

I don't care if it is Boll or anyone else producing them, IMO it does not and can not work, period.

Games based on books or movies? Sure. But, it does not work in reverse.

The typical video game tends to be fairly thin on plot, and equally thin on personality development, the emphasis is almost entirely on action. It lacks the narrative structure required for a good movie, so what you end up with is many "fill in the blanks" between slaughtering-every-monster-in-sight scene.

The only game I can really think of that might have the potential to be turned into a decent movie is Planescape Torment, because it has an incredibly profound narrative. Beyond PS:T however, I just don't see it.
The reality is that any game (the above example excepted) is going to be garbage as a movie, it truly doesn't matter who is involved in its creation.

Umm... have to disagree with you. MOST games turns into bad movies, but there as some exceptions: Final Fantasy: Advent Children, Silent Hill, Mortal Kombat I and Resident Evil movies (those were very good actually, especially when compared to most zombie-horror movies) comes to my mind...