I'm currently playing an Unarmed-based Brujah with a decent Ranged. I've noticed that the best strategy is to use opposite of what my enemies have, for example:
When fighting large, overpowering, unarmed monsters especially those dealing aggravated damage, I stay away from them, dance around them if possible and shoot at them. Examples are War ghouls and those multi-headed-whatever-they-are in the Warrens. I even managed to dispatch some of those crouching before they actually noticed me, and my character is not particularly stealthy.
When fighting swarms of enemies with guns I run them and smash them around with fists and feed on them (that strategy of using them as shields while feeding that someone has proposed, works nicely). The same goes to swarms of humans with melee weapons, and there are usually some thugs wielding them, together with the shooters.Nice examples were guys in Traffik, all of the Tong and the Ranged boss, Vick.
The main point in this strategy was obviously minimizing the damage they can inflict on me, as responding with the same type of attack usually resulted in me taking heavy damage.
Celerity is especially helpful for this, so I can imagine it would work well for the Toreador as well.
I played as a Melee Gangrel before and used similar tactics, although without Celerity I was inclined more towards Melee then, because it was harder to avoid Aggravated bosses and minibosses.
ROMERO: If you should see any zombies in that time, you need to put them down. Just don't let them bite you.
PC: Why? Do you turn into a zombie if they bite you?
ROMERO: Naw, it just hurts like a bitch.
It doesn't really matter actually. If you put enough in either one way of combat you are pretty much trash anything in the game. The guns are not as bad as the manual makes it sound. If you run out of ammo, run out of the room screaming and pray for someone round the corner for you to drink.
And blue marine, you should try building a max defense, max stamina, body armour, and maybe max protean grangel. See if anybody with a gun deals you damage at all. I don't even think the protean is necessary.
Cleaving to the flesh
Encumbering the steps
Around the flawed is where is lies
Weakening the reason
Shackles on the strong
All of hate has come to pass
Look behind
Look broad
All has come to nought
Leave the weary to their thoughts
[QUOTE=termos]I was wondering if the +3 perception can get your perception above 5. I suppose it should, or Auspex would be the worst discipline ever.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it does.
Also, I'd agree it's fairly easy to get brawl, melee, and firearms to decent levels without really spending any points on them (or spending much, anyway), if you do the buy/sell thing with manuals and get the appropriate level ups from pertinent characters.