Page 2 of 3
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:59 pm
by Erenor
[QUOTE=Nasuke]hmm..i want her, but i also want to be with her, and she likes me, so whtever, im just going to have to wait for whtever happens, and the DFs too of course.

[/QUOTE]
Dude, if you want to be with the girl then you have to watch her. You can't not do anything, but her wanting you to be her first kiss is a big deal. Don't push your luck too fast too hard or you'll lose her, and those situations suck a lot. If she means something to you and you want to be with her, then you're going to have to see how she reacts initially and go from there. And for the sake of guys everywhere that don't want to see you in the fetal position, don't do anything too forward unless she makes the first move.
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:24 pm
by VonDondu
Nasuke, you're way too worked up about this. A kiss is just a kiss. Even if you kiss the girl, that doesn't mean she belongs to you, no matter how important it feels to you. Maybe she just wants to see what a kiss feels like. Unless you know how to kiss really well, she might not like her first kiss. On the other hand, if she really likes you, or if you kiss her the right way, she might really enjoy it.
I could give you some good tips, but my better judgment tells me not to, partly because you're too young, but also because you have implied that once you kiss her, you're not to going to let go of her and you're going to start "grappling" with her. Listen, if you can't control yourself, don't touch her. Tell her to get a kiss from someone else--someone who knows how to kiss, and someone who won't lose control. Or, if you really do care about her, then learn what she needs and learn how to control yourself, and then kiss her.
There's a good chance that she won't make a commitment to you, no matter how much she enjoys crying on your shoulder. There's a reason why she is with (or has been with) someone besides you. If she hasn't broken up with him already, then it's not certain whether she wants to be your girlfriend even if she leaves the other guy. She might decide that you're a good friend, but not the kind of man she wants. Be prepared for that.
Based on what you've told us, I think the best thing you can do for you AND her is to tell her how you feel about her. I have a feeling you're going to be very awkward when you try to do that, but you need experience, and the best way to get experience is to try your best and see how it works.
Good luck!
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:26 pm
by Obsidian
Haha, oh the internet, where young men come seeking their answers about what to do with young women.
The first kiss is always a tricky thing. All I can say, is the more you plan it, the worse it will go.
If she honestly wants to be kissed, she will present an opportunity where you are face to face, and standing close.
My advice from that point, look her in the eye, and SLOWLY, turn you head slightly to one side, and lean in about 90% of the way. This lets her
a) back away if she feels uncomfortable without making you feel like an idiot.
b) there is an energy that sparks when you make eye contact that close, let that be a clue to how she feels. Excited is good, if her eyes are shifty, pull back!
c) Letting her go the last 10% leaves her in charge of the whole scene,
d) taking it slow is so much more romantic, and
e) going fast can cause cut lips and causes bruises.... which is awkward and kills the mood
Best of luck.
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:27 pm
by VonDondu
[QUOTE=Erenor]her wanting you to be her first kiss is a big deal...[/QUOTE]
Not necessarily. And she might not even be telling the truth. Look into your own heart and see whether you ever get confused and whether you ever lie about your personal experiences. Then remember that whatever you are capable of, anyone else is also capable of. I'm sorry if I spoiled your illusions about girls.

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:30 pm
by Obsidian
[QUOTE=VonDondu] I'm sorry if I spoiled your illusions about girls.

[/QUOTE]
What, they aren't spiteful, capricious creatures that steal your heart, drain your wallet and give an oh so special feeling inside that takes you like a drug?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:02 pm
by Demortis
i know how ya feel Nak. i dont do well telling women how i feel. best thing is to let her make the first move, if shes serious about this. dont go gettin grabby. thats a mood killer right there. and with sparring, watch your hand placement. i know its the samething that everyone else has said but, its wise council that should be hedded. it hasnt been that long since i was in your postion. although when we sparred she nearly broke limbs. ah those were the days when i didnt have to worry about leaving bruises. but anyways. number one rule for all female incounters.NEVER I REPEAT NEVER GO GRABBING THINGS UNLESS YOU LIKE LOTS OF PAIN, AND LOSS OF LIMBS!
leave that for us professionals.
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:58 pm
by winter rose
Nasuke --- why not just act like yourself? If you're nervous, you dont exactly have to tell her.Shes probably nervous to, or maybe not. But it seems to me like she needed somebody to talk to and you were there. Maybe she does like you...but I think you two would have to be friends for a while longer before you make any serious moves.I mean she was sort of on the rebound not too long ago...so maybe slow things down a bit?
And even if she does make her move first, it could just be because shes been through a rough patch recently...so maybe even tell her that you would rather get to know her a bit better before taking things to the next level?
CM -- bees and wasps? Sheesh.
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:29 am
by CM
[QUOTE=winter rose]
CM -- bees and wasps? Sheesh.[/QUOTE]
I explained my warped logic in todays e-mail. It is not a bad thing

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:43 am
by Macleod1701
Ah hells bells youngun I used to be a nervous wreck around girls then a wee bit into puberty my natural charm charisma and damn right sexiness showed through and I turned into a regular little casanova, cheating on girls, leading them on, generally being a male slut. Ah the good old days, not that I miss them now of course as I have my lovely Sarah......no of course I don't.....she isn't listening is she?!
Loseing control is not an option, you not letting her go borders on dangerous ground, next turn off to rape and anyone doing that deserves a good kicking. Take it easy and worse comes to worse talk to her, shocking I know
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:07 pm
by VonDondu
[QUOTE=CM]I explained my warped logic in todays e-mail. It is not a bad thing

[/QUOTE]
Back in elementary school, I wrote a little book called "The Bees, Wasps, and Hornets" for a school project. So I usually don't talk about bees and wasps without also mentioning hornets.
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:23 pm
by Nasuke
THANK YOU ALL!!!! hehe, she hasnt come over yet, but i remembered how i never used to be nervous and hopefully it will go well, and vondudu, i think that was a good explanation, but i dont think she is playing around. but i dont know about the kiss thing, she said she acts different on the internet, so iono. but whatever happens happens.
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:48 pm
by winter rose
[QUOTE=CM]I explained my warped logic in todays e-mail. It is not a bad thing

[/QUOTE]
still bees and wasps?
I guess the bright side would be that you wouldnt forget if it was bees and wasps... butterflies are too nice, esp where you're concerned.

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:50 pm
by Magrus
[QUOTE=winter rose]still bees and wasps?
I guess the bright side would be that you wouldnt forget if it was bees and wasps... butterflies are too nice, esp where you're concerned.

[/QUOTE]
So, the rose has thorns then. Your supposed to make him feel better, not encourage the nervousness.

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:55 pm
by winter rose
[QUOTE=Magrus]So, the rose has thorns then. Your supposed to make him feel better, not encourage the nervousness.

[/QUOTE]
Make him feel better? Now since when did I ever make him nervous? Besides thorns enhance the beauty of roses and all that poetic stuff that I should know, but cant recall that the moment.
I mean bees and wasps?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:09 pm
by Magrus
[QUOTE=winter rose]Make him feel better? Now since when did I ever make him nervous? Besides thorns enhance the beauty of roses and all that poetic stuff that I should know, but cant recall that the moment.
I mean bees and wasps?

[/QUOTE]
Oh, I know what he's talking about with the bees and wasps thing. You like a girl so much you worry your going to screw up and ruin everything.
I'm sure you make him very nervous. You females do that to guys just by being.
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:08 pm
by CM
[QUOTE=Magrus]Oh, I know what he's talking about with the bees and wasps thing. You like a girl so much you worry your going to screw up and ruin everything.
I'm sure you make him very nervous. You females do that to guys just by being.[/QUOTE]
Now that is what i meant. That is exactly how i feel. Thanks for the explanation!
*psst here is 20 bucks*

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:26 pm
by Magrus
[QUOTE=CM]Now that is what i meant. That is exactly how i feel. Thanks for the explanation!
*psst here is 20 bucks*

[/QUOTE]
Thanks.

I only have a liter of rum left. That'll help me get more. Definately need to drink some to get over this past weekened....

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:48 pm
by CM
Buy something better with those 20 dollars. Editted. Sorry i was over stepping my boundaries.
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:09 pm
by Obsidian
@ Nas.
Never, ever, use MSN, ICQ or any related format to communicate with women.
Trust me. I know it seems easier and safer, but don't, just don't.
I can't emphasize that enough from my own experiences.
Dear lord please just trust me on this one, don't talk to girls over the internet.
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:41 pm
by Magrus
[QUOTE=CM]Buy something better with those 20 dollars. Editted. Sorry i was over stepping my boundaries.[/QUOTE]
I do that all the time. One of the reasons I never bothered with sports.
She won't let me buy her anything, independant woman type.