Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 9:25 am
Christian. Roman Catholic. Was born and raised as one.
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Still doesn't qualify. Atheism is defined as the complete absence of any god. If there is even a hint of a god, then it's not atheism, half- or otherwise. Your friends subjective views on the subject doesn't change the meaning of the word. In fact, this is an example of the post-modern trend of redefining objective terms to subjective "my personal feeling of what atheism means to me". In the case of atheism, it's just plain silly, since it is derived from the greek word atheos meaning godless.Kipi wrote:It's hard to explain...
In a way, I'm also atheist, in a way I'm not...
For example, yes I do believe there is God, but I believe that He doesn't have anything to do with our world...
VERY hard to explain, I know...![]()
EDIT: Actually, the half-Atheist half-Christian wasn't even my invention, My believing has been called that way by many of my friends...
Perhaps they're atheists on weekends, but Christians the rest of the week. This would be very convenient, since it would allow them to mix better at work and socials during the week, while avoiding lengthy worshipping rituals and the like on Fridays, Saturdays, and Sundays.Silur wrote:Still doesn't qualify. Atheism is defined as the complete absence of any god. If there is even a hint of a god, then it's not atheism, half- or otherwise. Your friends subjective views on the subject doesn't change the meaning of the word. In fact, this is an example of the post-modern trend of redefining objective terms to subjective "my personal feeling of what atheism means to me". In the case of atheism, it's just plain silly, since it is derived from the greek word atheos meaning godless.
No, that's still christian in my book, since that's pretty much standard christian policy around here. These day only the nut cases actually show up in church, mostly because the voices tell them to.fable wrote:Perhaps they're atheists on weekends, but Christians the rest of the week. This would be very convenient, since it would allow them to mix better at work and socials during the week, while avoiding lengthy worshipping rituals and the like on Fridays, Saturdays, and Sundays.
I thought witches were supposed to know all kinds of secret stuff, like umm... swimming, and... umm... have big noses with warts on them. Now, where did we stack all that firewood?fable wrote:Of course, I'm just a witch, so what do I know? Not much.
But how can you tell nutcases from anybody else, at any time, anywhere?Silur wrote:No, that's still christian in my book, since that's pretty much standard christian policy around here. These day only the nut cases actually show up in church, mostly because the voices tell them to.This was sarcastically pointed out to me by a friend who works as a minister in the (former) state church, so it has to be fact, right?
We do know secret stuff. Unfortunately, it's useless secret stuff, like where CE stows the handcuffs she uses on you when you're both at work, and the number of seconds in every day that Sean doesn't post. Really helpful knowledge, like what corporation's stock is going to go through the roof next year, is just beyond our perception, though we're working on it in our secret Craft Lab.I thought witches were supposed to know all kinds of secret stuff, like umm... swimming, and... umm... have big noses with warts on them. Now, where did we stack all that firewood?
Any time and any where IS a problem, but at least we catch most of them on Sunday mornings... assuming we can get out of bed after doing all that *perfectly sane and normal* drinking and womanizing on Saturday evening. Good thing that "normal" is a subjective thing...fable wrote:But how can you tell nutcases from anybody else, at any time, anywhere?
If you had been paying attention during your seances, you would know that we've given up the hand cuffs (far too American) and are now doing it Israeli style with nylon cable ties. As for Sean's posting habits, that is public knowledge, freely available as a poster or glass engraving at your local FBI Agency gift shop, so it doesn't impress much. If you can show some success rate on the stock market trends, I might be interested though...fable wrote: We do know secret stuff. Unfortunately, it's useless secret stuff, like where CE stows the handcuffs she uses on you when you're both at work, and the number of seconds in every day that Sean doesn't post. Really helpful knowledge, like what corporation's stock is going to go through the roof next year, is just beyond our perception, though we're working on it in our secret Craft Lab.
Yes, I can imagine you gave up the warts and pointy hat thing ages ago. Kind of hard to stay away from bonfires with an obvious tell tale sign like that on your person. Still, I kind of like the goth sort of clothing that some of the female so-called witches dress up in around here. Reminds me of whats-her-name in the Adams family - I had such a crush on her when I was a kid...fable wrote:We don't have warts. That's airy persiflage. We do, however, have quite a number of people claiming to be witches who confuse the Craft with fantasy novels, dress-up tournaments, book clubs, insta-spell and self-help groups, etc. Next to what we have got, warts might actually be a blessing.![]()
Israeli style? Is that what they're calling it, nowadays?Silur wrote:If you had been paying attention during your seances, you would know that we've given up the hand cuffs (far too American) and are now doing it Israeli style with nylon cable ties.
Carolyn Jones as Morticia! Yes, fun series, that. One of the few things worth watching then. Had a superb cast, by the way. Yet another instance where the ABC network admitted they killed off a show because it was becoming "too popular."As for Sean's posting habits, that is public knowledge, freely available as a poster or glass engraving at your local FBI Agency gift shop, so it doesn't impress much. If you can show some success rate on the stock market trends, I might be interested though...
Well, I know your King Gustav is supposed to be assassinated, but I imagine my intuitive bolt from the blue is a tad late.
Yes, I can imagine you gave up the warts and pointy hat thing ages ago. Kind of hard to stay away from bonfires with an obvious tell tale sign like that on your person. Still, I kind of like the goth sort of clothing that some of the female so-called witches dress up in around here. Reminds me of whats-her-name in the Adams family - I had such a crush on her when I was a kid...![]()
Just goes to show who has been doing who through history since it's found everywhere these days...fable wrote:Amazing how certain things merely change points of origin over time and in different places, like syphillis, which was the French Disease in English, but the Spanish Disease in France.
They're all Gustav this or that, so you never know - it could be a prediction for some future king. I think the royal family has pinned Gustav as one of the really Swedish names, and they do thier best to hide their "Froggy" heritage behind it.Well, I know your King Gustav is supposed to be assassinated, but I imagine my intuitive bolt from the blue is a tad late.
They're never quite happy, are they? Most of the time they whine about low ratings and loosing viewers, but too many viewers? I can't see the problem. SciFi cancelled one of my favourite shows a few years back because it didn't attract new viewers any more... too low growth rate or whatever it was. It was in its fourth season and had a huge fan base, but that wasn't enough, was it?Carolyn Jones as Morticia! Yes, fun series, that. One of the few things worth watching then. Had a superb cast, by the way. Yet another instance where the ABC network admitted they killed off a show because it was becoming "too popular."![]()
Ah, those early morning human sacrifices... those were the days. The whole thing went down the drain for lack of virgins - you can't imagine how hard it is to find one these days!Still could do without the witch persona, though. For one thing, we're not just female, and for another, we only ride the skies of inner space. We're also pretty nice, average people, at least compared to solar diety worshippers. I think.
The lack of concern for the existence of god is probably not outside the boundaries of agnosticism. Still, recent interpretations sometimes add an element of "searching for god" to it, so if you think the entire issue is irrelevant, then you're probably better off with "theologically non-cognitive" or ignostic... I like the ignostic reply to any discussion concerning the existence of god; "I don't know what you're talking about when you talk about God." Also from Wikipedia.Tricky wrote:Is Agnosticism even a belief? You can't believe in something you don't actively think about. It is why I like the expression 'better. Picked that one off Wikipedia, actually.![]()
If anything, agnostics think more about their religious beliefs than many "believers" who have simply inherited their opinions along with their genes. Agnostics anaylze religious dogma, and believe that given the limitations of human perception, nothing can be proven one way or the other. THis is very different from simply saying, "I don't care." Google is your friend: try this site to discover more about it.Tricky wrote:Is Agnosticism even a belief? You can't believe in something you don't actively think about.
Probably the closest so far to my personal beliefs on here.DaemonJ wrote:I too had to vote "Other" as my beliefs are close to a combination of Druidism / Paganism / Wiccan.
It is really hard to explain but basically nature provides what we need so long as we take care of nature.