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you never answered me canada man.

will you love me?

Originally posted by Enchantress

And he would not phone you and say he didn't like it! As far as he's concerned, his SYM days are over now and he doesn't see what's written here unless I point it out to him.

What has you believe that?? Point it out to him then, have him ask the questions of me.

Originally posted by Yshania
Life always carries on, no part is greater than the whole, but many parts have a function in the machine and Gruntboy is a big part of the machine that birthed SYM. I always talk about him like he is here, because to me he is an integral part in spirit. I am sure he would be amused by this conversation.

Why shouldn't life carry on as normal? I was upset to see Grunty go, I was on the phone to him that same night trying to work out what the hell happened. I called him an idiot for reacting the way he did, in essence he admitted this, and such he went gracefully.

Life does go on, it has to in order to learn and grow. I am sure he learned from the experience as we all did.

All I'm saying is that would you feel happy about being outside in the cold looking inwards at a place that no longer allows you admittance? I personally decided to stay outside with him but I'm not saying anyone else should have too, (although, has Waverly been back since?)

I guess I'm asking you to consider how Gruntboy the person must feel inside about being slung out of somewhere but people still acting as though he's still there and everything is ok...

I don't mean to make a big thing about this - I just wanted to mention it and make the point.

Edit: Yshania, I have shown him things written about him on SYM. He doesn't say much but I think it surprises him. I'm not saying he isn't grateful about being remembered but I do think it must be very uncomfortable to be in a position where you can't reply.

I think the individual person here is maybe being mistaken with the persona of Gruntboy. I see them as two different things, that's all.

I don’t want to see this degenerate into an argument. Enchantress, I agree with Ysh and Aegis, mentioning Grunt in threads is our way of remembering him with the respect and friendship many of us have for him. I don’t think anyone’s pretending nothing happened, but sometimes things happen or remind us of his contributions to the board, whether they be his personal ideas or his larger than life “Gruntboy the marine” persona. No one means any disrespect to him and I do not want this thread to end in bad feelings.

Originally posted by Enchantress
All I'm saying is that would you feel happy about being outside in the cold looking inwards at a place that no longer allows you admittance? I personally decided to stay outside with him but I'm not saying anyone else should have too, (although, has Waverly been back since?)

I guess I'm asking you to consider how Gruntboy the person must feel inside about being slung out of somewhere but people still acting as though he's still there and everything is ok...

I don't mean to make a big thing about this - I just wanted to mention it and make the point.

Edit: Yshania, I have shown him things written about him on SYM. He doesn't say much but I think it surprises him. I'm not saying he isn't grateful about being remembered but I do think it must be very uncomfortable to be in a position where you can't reply.

I think the individual person here is maybe being mistaken with the persona of Gruntboy. I see them as two different things, that's all.

Personally, whenever I refer to Grunty, he is not on the outside. Your choosing to avoid SYM is your own, and we should not all be judged by the same call. Waverly has not been all that absent, if you are around enough to notice, yet he would not see Grunty tarred. Don't forget, he has other friends here who care dearly outside of you and Waverly.

He was banned, he was "slung out" for behaving inappropiately, and he is quick to acknowledge this which was why he retired gracefully. If I had been "slung out" of somewhere, I would be honoured to still be considered part of the community, since this is not slating him, this is including him. Post count is irrelevant, it comes down to contribution, and Grunty was one of the major contributors of this site.

I appreciate you are making a defensive point, but you forget he has good friends here still.

No comment, bar than he could if he wanted.

Originally posted by T'lainya
I don’t want to see this degenerate into an argument. Enchantress, I agree with Ysh and Aegis, mentioning Grunt in threads is our way of remembering him with the respect and friendship many of us have for him. I don’t think anyone’s pretending nothing happened, but sometimes things happen or remind us of his contributions to the board, whether they be his personal ideas or his larger than life “Gruntboy the marine” persona. No one means any disrespect to him and I do not want this thread to end in bad feelings.

It's not an argument - I was merely making a point.

So I guess you'll be mentioning him in your threads anyway without any thought about if he actually wants to be talked about! If you're just great mates with him, why don't you actually ask him?

And if you're such great mates with him, why do you still continue post here now your great mate has been banned? Why didn't you stick up for him more at the time?

Oh, don't answer that...

It just seems like hypocracy somewhat.

I could ask the same question then

I seem to remember at the time of his banning, Yshania, you said you would not be posting at SYM in view of that.

Enchantress, trust me I will ask him if it bothers him. As for staying on Gamebanshee..he broke the rules and was warned and broke them again. That was his choice. I have friends here besides Grunt and I choose to stay, my choice. I will not discuss this further with you until I have spoken to Grunt.

I think I'll post something here since it seems appropriate to.

It isn't very complicated really. Not only would it not bother Grunt at all, but continuing to argue about it is a pointless journey into rousing up bad feelings that have no place here. I think T very reasonably and realistically summed it all up very well in her post.

Why the hell continue on about it? Or better yet, if you want to continue on and on about it, how about doing everyone a favor Enchantress and take it to PMs?

Thanks.

Originally posted by Enchantress
I seem to remember at the time of his banning, Yshania, you said you would not be posting at SYM in view of that.

You said the same, yet it is you assuming intent. My own decision was to review who I corresponded with, since I had not been instrumental in the actual cause of said banning.

Enchantress, we realize that you probably have a closer bond with Grunty then any of us, and thats why you went with him when he retired gracefully after being banned. We don't doubt that, but also, there are some of us who have been here since GB's inception to the internet, not to mention SYM. IF the whole SYM community were to leave to stand on the side of Grunt, it would demolish half the community. Not to mention we all have connections on here we'd like to maintain.

Grunty is, and always will be in my mind, part of SYM, and I'd like to see Buck give him one more shot. But, I'm not about to throw my other friendships away for one person. But, I will honour him in memory, and by speaking highly of him.

And if Grunty has anything to say about that, tell him my fish-armed penguins will meet his pantless marines on the field of battle any day

@RT: There are somethings I choose to ignore.

Originally posted by T'lainya
Enchantress, trust me I will ask him if it bothers him. As for staying on Gamebanshee..he broke the rules and was warned and broke them again. That was his choice. I have friends here besides Grunt and I choose to stay, my choice. I will not discuss this further with you until I have spoken to Grunt.

T'Lainya, you misunderstand me - I'm not saying being mentioned bothers Gruntboy. My original point was merely, is it fair to talk about someone who has been banned and cannot reply? That was the point I was making.

I just see the right to reply to something said about oneself as being an important point here but never claimed anything unkind was being said about him. Thankyou Aegis for at least seeing what I was trying to say and why.

Yes, I do feel quite irked that SYM talks about Gruntboy here like nothing happened but also watched him get slung out. However, that's only how I see it and others will disagree, so let's just drop it now.

If you ask him how he feels about being mentioned a lot here, he won't want to make a fuss about it either way. But he can't join in either. I was just telling you about how it makes me feel as I still have a right to reply.

SYM is a strange place and legendary characters seem to have overtaken real people. Hang onto Gruntboy if you really need to but he's actually long gone.

Originally posted by Enchantress
My original point was merely, is it fair to talk about someone who has been banned and cannot reply?

Yes, if they were daft enough to get themselves banned in the first place then it serves them right. It's only a forum, for goodness' sake.

@gilgalen perhaps you could get some new peaches?

Only if it contains no peaches, Scayde

This turned into a very unpeachlike discussion. I think a couple of you need to abstain from fructose for a spell.

How many people does this gruntboy creature employ to monitor site content for him?

Originally posted by Gilgalen

How many people does this gruntboy creature employ to monitor site content for him?

I was going to just leave this topic alone now but this comment is quite unpleasant.

I don't know who you are, Gilgalen and if you are genuinely ignorant of what was being discussed or just pretending to be so.

Why don't you just find a topic of conversation that doesn't involve talking about people behind their backs, irrelevant of if you think your conversation is mere fun and games?

It's the principal of it.

@ Enchantress, actually this is his thread heh..

a wierd thread about peaches.

In which a canuck refuses his love because he no longer can take a joke.

And in which Scayde pm'd me like 10 times proffesing her desire to bath me in peaches...


... while chanak pm'd me the same thing only 4 times?

OK, Random Thug, I am ok about leaving the subject now if others are.

I just had a point to make and I made it, that's all.

Edit: Gilgalen - I sent you a PM. Sorry if you felt your thread was hijacked.