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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2001 5:32 pm
by Saigo
Originally posted by T'lainya:
@ Saigo have you read the sequel to the Alienist? It's called the Angel of Death..good book
Yes, I have read it. It was an excellent book, though not as good as the first, IMO. I didn't think the characters aged well....
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2001 4:12 am
by Xandax
Originally posted by FoulDwimmerlaik:
Still much to much worc in that i like sitcomms much mor 'cuz there be les worc to wach.
You can also get books on MC/CD, so you don't even have to look a pictures
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2001 4:16 am
by Gruntboy
Sun Tzu is good if your a BC Chinaman. Likewise, Machiavelli is good if your a Rennaissance European.
They make good reading and are of great historical interest but their relevance for modern war is purely theoretical.
Try Carl von Clausewitz, "On War", its in a a similar vein.
Also: Jomini's "Art of War".
Alternatively, read the US Army's Battle Doctrine (AirLand Battle - not sure if it has moved on from this) - its all you need to know.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2001 5:02 am
by Xandax
Well I'm not reading Machiavelli' Art of War because I think that you can use their kind of warfare in modern days. I would guess that also goes for those reading Sun Tzu.
But there are ideas that can be used in modern day, as I've mention above for instance the business world and management.
Military warfare/theories are constantly undergoing changes - so it is difficult to even read/write about modern warfare with out it being obsolete.
[This message has been edited by Xandax (edited 03-06-2001).]
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2001 5:07 am
by Alison Entreri
Originally posted by Weasel:
Two more authors....Philip Jose' Farmer and Steven Donaldson...(I could be wrong on the spelling of their names)
@Weasel: Have you read the Gap Series from Stephen Donaldson? IMHO the best series ever!
The characters and their desires etc were just brilliant.
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The Present is an Illusion, The Future is a Dream and The Past is a Lie!
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2001 5:11 am
by Flagg
Originally posted by Gruntboy:
Sun Tzu is good if your a BC Chinaman. Likewise, Machiavelli is good if your a Rennaissance European.
They make good reading and are of great historical interest but their relevance for modern war is purely theoretical.
I am not so sure about the theoretical part. I know that Sun Tzu is required literature at the military academy here in Holland
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2001 5:13 am
by Alison Entreri
Another double post Flagg, it's just not your day is it
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2001 5:19 am
by Flagg
Originally posted by Alison Entreri:
Another double post Flagg, it's just not your day is it
What did you have to drink today???? I really don't know what the hell you are talking about.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2001 5:20 am
by Alison Entreri
Originally posted by Flagg:
What did you have to drink today???? I really don't know what the hell you are talking about.
LMFAO
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2001 5:23 am
by Rail
With the epidemic of double (triple
) posts today, I think Weasel did something to the board, again.
(Oh, wait! I was defending Weasel! Okay, scratch that last comment.)
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2001 5:27 am
by Weasel
Originally posted by Alison Entreri:
@Weasel: Have you read the Gap Series from Stephen Donaldson? IMHO the best series ever!
The characters and their desires etc were just brilliant.
Yep read them all...I agree great reading...I started reading his work after I found a collection about ??? The Wounded Land I believe.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2001 5:31 am
by Alison Entreri
Originally posted by Weasel:
Yep read them all...I agree great reading...I started reading his work after I found a collection about ??? The Wounded Land I believe.
My first was the Covenant Trilogy, haven't read the second trilogy, I have heard it isn't a patch on the first and I'd be disappointed.
Clive Barker is also a really good author (IMO very near SD)
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2001 5:34 am
by Weasel
Originally posted by Alison Entreri:
My first was the Covenant Trilogy, haven't read the second trilogy, I have heard it isn't a patch on the first and I'd be disappointed.
That is it...I believe there is 6 books total....my wife found the whole set together in hard back copy and bought them for me...
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2001 5:41 am
by Alison Entreri
Originally posted by Weasel:
That is it...I believe there is 6 books total....my wife found the whole set together in hard back copy and bought them for me...
@Weasel: So IYHO what was the second trilogy like?
I'll have to read this tommorrow at work cause it's time for bed here.
Regs all
Alison Entreri
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2001 5:47 am
by Weasel
@Alison Entreri...it's been awhile ....but IIRC the first three were better...I've been thinking of rereading them again.....still worth reading though IMHO...
See you tomorrow.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2001 7:14 am
by Blueman
Harry Turtledove is the king of 'what if' fiction. I've read his World War series (lizard like aliens land in 1942 or '43).
I also like Peter Hamilton.
Nobody's mentioned Orson Scott Card with Ender's Game. One of the best books I've read in a while.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2001 8:07 pm
by Rail
@Blueman- I agree. Ender's Game is one of the best books I've ever read. One of the only books I truly couldn't put down.
How about Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time books? Anyone else like his work?
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2001 8:11 pm
by Weasel
@Rail....I have seen the name Orson Scott Card but can not put a name to the book I read by him.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2001 8:12 pm
by Rail
@Weasel- What was it about? I'm not a HUGE OSC fan, but maybe I'll know.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2001 8:17 pm
by Weasel
@Rail...I can't remember...too many books and not enough brain cells...you know I have every book I have read since I was 18 years old....the good ones and the bad ones. Never going to get rid of them either...I would like to have my own library one day..