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This article made my day today. Even though the real subject behind it is serious one, I can but wonder wether the "doctor" in question is actually serious or just want to publicity...
How using Facebook could raise your risk of cancer | Mail Online
How using Facebook could raise your risk of cancer
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 11:21 AM on 19th February 2009
Social networking sites such as Facebook could raise your risk of serious health problems by reducing levels of face-to-face contact, a doctor claims.
Emailing people rather than meeting up with them may have wide-ranging biological effects, said psychologist Dr Aric Sigman.
Increased isolation could alter the way genes work and upset immune responses, hormone levels and the function of arteries. It could also impair mental performance.
The number of hours people spend interacting face-to-face has fallen dramatically since 1987 as electronic media use has risen
This could increase the risk of problems as serious as cancer, strokes, heart disease and dementia, Dr Sigman says in Biologist, the journal of the Institute of Biology.
Social networking sites such as MySpace and Facebook allow people to keep in touch with friends over the web.
They can swap pictures, play games and leave messages which explain how their day is going.
But even though they are designed to bring people together, Dr Sigman said they were actually playing a significant role in people becoming more isolated.
Research suggested that the number of hours people spent speaking to others face-to-face had fallen dramatically since 1987 as the use of electronic media increased.
Interacting 'in person' had effects on the body not seen when writing emails, Dr Sigman claimed. Levels of hormones such as the 'cuddle chemical' oxytocin, which promotes bonding, altered according to whether people were in close contact or not.
'There does seem to be a difference between "real presence" and the virtual variety,' Dr Sigman added.
Some genes, including ones involved with the immune system and responses to stress, acted differently according to how much social interaction a person had with others.
Dr Sigman added: 'Social networking sites should allow us to embellish our social lives, but what we find is very different.
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'It's not that I'm old fashioned in terms of new technology, but its purpose should be to provide a tool that enhances our lives.'
Dr Sigman told the Press Association: 'Social networking is the internet's biggest growth area, particular among young children.
'A quarter of British children have a laptop or computer in their room by the age of five and they have their own social networking sites, like the BBC's myCBBC. It's causing huge changes.'
Studies had shown that children taught via video broadcasts or DVDs did not learn as well as they did when given lessons by a real teacher.
Dr Sigman said 209 'socially regulated' genes had been identified, including ones involved in the immune system, cell proliferation and responses to stress.
Their activity may account for higher rates of inflammatory disease and other health problems seen in socially isolated individuals.
Electronic media was also undermining the ability of children and young people to learn vital social skills and read body language, said Dr Sigman.
'One of the most pronounced changes in the daily habits of British citizens is a reduction in the number of minutes per day that they interact with another human being,' he said.
'In less than two decades, the number of people saying there is no one with whom they discuss important matters nearly tripled.
'Parents spend less time with their children than they did only a decade ago. Britain has the lowest proportion of children in all of Europe who eat with their parents at the table. The proportion of people who work at home alone continues to rise.
'I am worried about where this is all leading.
'Social networking sites should allow us to embellish our social lives, but what we find is very different. The tail is wagging the dog. These are not tools that enhance, they are tools that displace.’
Thoughts? Anyone actually had some info wether this can actually be true? (CE, I'm looking at you )
How using Facebook could raise your risk of cancer | Mail Online
How using Facebook could raise your risk of cancer
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 11:21 AM on 19th February 2009
Social networking sites such as Facebook could raise your risk of serious health problems by reducing levels of face-to-face contact, a doctor claims.
Emailing people rather than meeting up with them may have wide-ranging biological effects, said psychologist Dr Aric Sigman.
Increased isolation could alter the way genes work and upset immune responses, hormone levels and the function of arteries. It could also impair mental performance.
The number of hours people spend interacting face-to-face has fallen dramatically since 1987 as electronic media use has risen
This could increase the risk of problems as serious as cancer, strokes, heart disease and dementia, Dr Sigman says in Biologist, the journal of the Institute of Biology.
Social networking sites such as MySpace and Facebook allow people to keep in touch with friends over the web.
They can swap pictures, play games and leave messages which explain how their day is going.
But even though they are designed to bring people together, Dr Sigman said they were actually playing a significant role in people becoming more isolated.
Research suggested that the number of hours people spent speaking to others face-to-face had fallen dramatically since 1987 as the use of electronic media increased.
Interacting 'in person' had effects on the body not seen when writing emails, Dr Sigman claimed. Levels of hormones such as the 'cuddle chemical' oxytocin, which promotes bonding, altered according to whether people were in close contact or not.
'There does seem to be a difference between "real presence" and the virtual variety,' Dr Sigman added.
Some genes, including ones involved with the immune system and responses to stress, acted differently according to how much social interaction a person had with others.
Dr Sigman added: 'Social networking sites should allow us to embellish our social lives, but what we find is very different.
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Menopause drug once thought safer than HRT 'could raise risk of breast cancer relapse'
'It's not that I'm old fashioned in terms of new technology, but its purpose should be to provide a tool that enhances our lives.'
Dr Sigman told the Press Association: 'Social networking is the internet's biggest growth area, particular among young children.
'A quarter of British children have a laptop or computer in their room by the age of five and they have their own social networking sites, like the BBC's myCBBC. It's causing huge changes.'
Studies had shown that children taught via video broadcasts or DVDs did not learn as well as they did when given lessons by a real teacher.
Dr Sigman said 209 'socially regulated' genes had been identified, including ones involved in the immune system, cell proliferation and responses to stress.
Their activity may account for higher rates of inflammatory disease and other health problems seen in socially isolated individuals.
Electronic media was also undermining the ability of children and young people to learn vital social skills and read body language, said Dr Sigman.
'One of the most pronounced changes in the daily habits of British citizens is a reduction in the number of minutes per day that they interact with another human being,' he said.
'In less than two decades, the number of people saying there is no one with whom they discuss important matters nearly tripled.
'Parents spend less time with their children than they did only a decade ago. Britain has the lowest proportion of children in all of Europe who eat with their parents at the table. The proportion of people who work at home alone continues to rise.
'I am worried about where this is all leading.
'Social networking sites should allow us to embellish our social lives, but what we find is very different. The tail is wagging the dog. These are not tools that enhance, they are tools that displace.’
Thoughts? Anyone actually had some info wether this can actually be true? (CE, I'm looking at you )
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Yes...because your friends from facebook are the only form of human contact that people ever receive.Emailing people rather than meeting up with them may have wide-ranging biological effects, said psychologist Dr Aric Sigman.
*sniff sniff* What's that I smell? Oh yeah, it's unnecessary propaganda based on nothing more than baseless speculation.Increased isolation could alter the way genes work and upset immune responses, hormone levels and the function of arteries. It could also impair mental performance.
BWAHAHA! The cuddle chemical eh? Sorry, but that just made me laugh.Levels of hormones such as the 'cuddle chemical' oxytocin, which promotes bonding, altered according to whether people were in close contact or not.
Never would've guessed that.'There does seem to be a difference between "real presence" and the virtual variety,' Dr Sigman added.
So that's where Asperger's comes from. That explains everything. My 12 years of therapy are completely void now.Electronic media was also undermining the ability of children and young people to learn vital social skills and read body language, said Dr Sigman.
Seriously though, this article is yet another scapegoat blame game to a problem that can be solved much more easily by putting the blame where it actually belongs. Parents who let their children spend multiple hours of a day on a computer, I urge you to unplug the machine (well not literally, that's bad for a PC) and send your children to the mall or a recreational center or something.
As for the Facebook causes cancer part of that argument though...I'm not gonna even touch that one.
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Recreational Centre? Fine, not a bad idea at all.I urge you to unplug the machine (well not literally, that's bad for a PC) and send your children to the mall or a recreational center or something.
However, I would much rather my son spend time at his computer chatting with friends via MSN and researching subjects that interest him.. than join the numerous vacuous teenagers populating our local mall... *shudder*
If we lived near downtown, different story.. I'd send him off to the library, coffee shop etc.
As for the topic itself... I'll be interested in CE's input, and I don't think there is any doubt that too much computer communication can cause isolation, but much of the article seems premised on a lot of "coulds" and "ifs."
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And isolation has kind of a stigma (in some peoples minds) making it more than it really is.
Its like "oh my god I am isolated!" when in reality just the next second you could be opening up to someone which would make you definitively non-isolated.
To repeat I am not denying isolation has (health) consequences but I am asserting that there is an additional stigma to what is already there. Meaning sort of like an exageration.
Its like "oh my god I am isolated!" when in reality just the next second you could be opening up to someone which would make you definitively non-isolated.
To repeat I am not denying isolation has (health) consequences but I am asserting that there is an additional stigma to what is already there. Meaning sort of like an exageration.
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The article is taking it to the extreme but then the gist of its argument can be simply put as this:
FB and its likes give me the opportunity to communicate with other people where the probability of meeting them in person in current time is close to nil.
It should have been something like this: "The OVERuse of Facebook..."
Besides, your employers would frown on the idea that you use company time to socialize on the net.
Get a RL social-life and mingle with people too outside your room and not let your world revolve around the computer.
FB and its likes give me the opportunity to communicate with other people where the probability of meeting them in person in current time is close to nil.
It should have been something like this: "The OVERuse of Facebook..."
Besides, your employers would frown on the idea that you use company time to socialize on the net.
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Most of the teens that come in our library, are using the computers..dragon wench wrote:If we lived near downtown, different story.. I'd send him off to the library
and from my observations, 90 percent are on Facebook/Myspace...etc...:laugh:
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lmao! Thing is, I can't see my kid doing that when he can mess with something like Facebook in the comfort of his own home. He'll make a pot of tea or coffee, grab something to eat, and go to it.. not something you can do in the libraryBlueSky wrote:Most of the teens that come in our library, are using the computers..
and from my observations, 90 percent are on Facebook/Myspace...etc...:laugh:
Also, he actually reads like a complete fiend so I'd imagine he'd be in there searching through books.
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Well, they were just examples, but my main point is that parents can be more forceful in getting their kids outside and in social situations, and a parent that is just letting a child waste his life playing WoW and surfing Myspace/Facebook (more than likely all three), that's not really responsible parenting and to blame facebook or myspace for a childs physical and/or mental problems is rather evasive of the actual problem. Poor parenting.dragon wench wrote:Recreational Centre? Fine, not a bad idea at all.
However, I would much rather my son spend time at his computer chatting with friends via MSN and researching subjects that interest him.. than join the numerous vacuous teenagers populating our local mall... *shudder*
If we lived near downtown, different story.. I'd send him off to the library, coffee shop etc.
As for the topic itself... I'll be interested in CE's input, and I don't think there is any doubt that too much computer communication can cause isolation, but much of the article seems premised on a lot of "coulds" and "ifs."
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@Sib,
Yes parents can be more forceful. But, it also depends on the situation. For example, we presently have the misfortune of living in a really rednecked area and I'd much rather that my son chat with his friends from his previous school on MSN or his friends, from, yes, WoW, than hang around with any of the kids in this particular area. Go ahead, call me elitist if you like, but the thought of him socialising with a bunch of aspiring grease jockeys and girls likely to enter the fine art of "early childcare education" by the age of 16 doesn't particularly thrill me.
Perhaps with some luck we'll be moving in the next half year.. but until then..
Like I said, it is .. situational, and you really need to wait until you are a parent yourself before making those kinds of pronouncements
Anyway, back to topic.. I thnk Mah has it right, the article does make some legitimate points, and it raises very valid concerns, but it goes far overboard and much of it is open to debate.
Yes parents can be more forceful. But, it also depends on the situation. For example, we presently have the misfortune of living in a really rednecked area and I'd much rather that my son chat with his friends from his previous school on MSN or his friends, from, yes, WoW, than hang around with any of the kids in this particular area. Go ahead, call me elitist if you like, but the thought of him socialising with a bunch of aspiring grease jockeys and girls likely to enter the fine art of "early childcare education" by the age of 16 doesn't particularly thrill me.
Perhaps with some luck we'll be moving in the next half year.. but until then..
Like I said, it is .. situational, and you really need to wait until you are a parent yourself before making those kinds of pronouncements
Anyway, back to topic.. I thnk Mah has it right, the article does make some legitimate points, and it raises very valid concerns, but it goes far overboard and much of it is open to debate.
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I've babysat for day to week periods at a time, I may not have the full experience but I do have some. That's why I make these judgements. Otherwise you're right, I'd have no right to make them.
Anyways, one other thing I noticed about the article is it seemed like it was saying people who socialize on the internet generally have a lack of social abilities in real life, or something to that effect. I'm not sure that'd be true, considering most emotional responses on the internet are amplified, not depressed.
Kind of reminds me of the Red Vs Blue: Internet versus Real life episode.
Real Life Politics- "Well, that's just my opinion."
"I guess we don't see eye to eye but I respect your opinion."
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Anyways, one other thing I noticed about the article is it seemed like it was saying people who socialize on the internet generally have a lack of social abilities in real life, or something to that effect. I'm not sure that'd be true, considering most emotional responses on the internet are amplified, not depressed.
Kind of reminds me of the Red Vs Blue: Internet versus Real life episode.
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@Sib: At the end of it all, it boils down on how one balances his life with all the things presented and made available to the person. The internet with all its communication opportunities is an integral part of my life. I learned a lot from people and friends I meet on the net and I would like to think that I'm an improved person because of these experiences.
In the same token, I still go out and be with friends in RL and get more of that "oxytocin." It's all about spacing and balancing.
As for parenting there are many individuals out there who, in their teen years would think that they know how good parenting should be while dissing the way they're being handled by their own parents...
...only to find out that years later when they get to have their own teens, they realized that their parents were right afterall.
@DW: I hear you dear, on the topic of parenting. Gadz, I'd do the same thing too with my son given the situation. I'd either have his friends over, or allow him to visit his friends' place (provided of course there is ample adult supervision.
I'll expose him a bit though of the RL outside shenanigans one has to put up with so he would get some "immunity/resistance" factor from the viral world out there. It's a tough job balancing being protective and letting the kids prepare for the crap RL has to offer.
In the same token, I still go out and be with friends in RL and get more of that "oxytocin." It's all about spacing and balancing.
As for parenting there are many individuals out there who, in their teen years would think that they know how good parenting should be while dissing the way they're being handled by their own parents...
...only to find out that years later when they get to have their own teens, they realized that their parents were right afterall.
@DW: I hear you dear, on the topic of parenting. Gadz, I'd do the same thing too with my son given the situation. I'd either have his friends over, or allow him to visit his friends' place (provided of course there is ample adult supervision.
I'll expose him a bit though of the RL outside shenanigans one has to put up with so he would get some "immunity/resistance" factor from the viral world out there. It's a tough job balancing being protective and letting the kids prepare for the crap RL has to offer.
Yes, Sib, you're right on this one: You have no right to make them. Baby sitting for weeks doesn't even come close --- not even a modicum --- of what real parenting is all about. There are just too many implications, responsibilities, stress, heartaches, joys, happiness, triumphs and failures associated with parenting that mere babysitting and "daycaring" can't even provide.Siberys wrote:I've babysat for day to week periods at a time, I may not have the full experience but I do have some. That's why I make these judgements. Otherwise you're right, I'd have no right to make them.
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Hmmmmmm. As a person who makes my living partly by Web 2.0 and social networks, this article didn't bring up anything new. It has been known for a long time that social networks and "second life" sites can drastically worsen the problems for people struggling with loneliness and depression. When Web 2.0 arrived it was hailed as the saviour of these people, but time has shown that it's actually the other way around.
Here's a thought: People need to learn self-moderation, and stop blaming everything but themselves for their sorry lives. Getting addicted or dependent on anything is generally not a good idea. Virtual lives have a tendency to jump up and kick you very hard in the face in the real world, if you let it. Another thing is that people are dumb as bricks when it comes to life online. The most timid, careful person will do the dumbest things in the virtual world. Facebook? I'm on there almost 24-7 as part of my work, but don't think for a second that I'm not on to the way they manipulate and map me. That's also part of the work. The people who run these places do not do so out of the goodness of their hearts, and if people could just get that as the ground rule for their lives online, we would have come a long way. I've been trying to teach my friends this stuff for ages, but it's like talking to trees. :laugh: "What? I shouldn't have said yes to that application? But it's just fun!" Yeah, right.
Here's a thought: People need to learn self-moderation, and stop blaming everything but themselves for their sorry lives. Getting addicted or dependent on anything is generally not a good idea. Virtual lives have a tendency to jump up and kick you very hard in the face in the real world, if you let it. Another thing is that people are dumb as bricks when it comes to life online. The most timid, careful person will do the dumbest things in the virtual world. Facebook? I'm on there almost 24-7 as part of my work, but don't think for a second that I'm not on to the way they manipulate and map me. That's also part of the work. The people who run these places do not do so out of the goodness of their hearts, and if people could just get that as the ground rule for their lives online, we would have come a long way. I've been trying to teach my friends this stuff for ages, but it's like talking to trees. :laugh: "What? I shouldn't have said yes to that application? But it's just fun!" Yeah, right.
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Hmm? I spend 10+ hours a day on the computer(6 of it doing my home-schooling) and I'm fine. Provided you eat healthy and get enough sleep(I get 12 hours, not sure if thats good or not). This guy is an idiot. As for the video/DVD thing, of course, the kid can't ask questions about difficult content. Add a teacher on a chat room, on you will have better results than most public schools.
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