bow of solar

jumpydady · Post by **jumpydady** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:28 pm

hi sorry again for more questions: is there a way for a non epic medium size character to use a bow of solar normaly without enlarge himself? like a way to shrink the bow size permanently? since monkey grip only applies to melee weapon... thx once again

Siberys · Post by **Siberys** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:32 am

Well, first off, where is the Bow of Solar located? I've never heard of that and it doesn't seem to be in the Epic Handbook.

jumpydady · Post by **jumpydady** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:23 am

book of exalted deeds magic items

GawainBS · Post by **GawainBS** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:11 am

You can always Enlarge yourself via a spell like (Greater) Enlarge Person. You can also make a custom item with this spell that's always active.
If you meet the prerequisites to craft it (or know someone who does), just use a medium Composite Longbow as the base.

jumpydady · Post by **jumpydady** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:54 am

well right now non of those option are viable for me :S but thx

GawainBS · Post by **GawainBS** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:55 am

Something else sprang to mind: a Goliath or Half-Giant are both Medium-sized, but can use Large weapons...

jumpydady · Post by **jumpydady** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:27 pm

humm ok that is an idea but i found a solution: strongarm bracer but thx still

Siberys · Post by **Siberys** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:04 pm

Wait...why isn't enlarging yourself an option?

Potions of Enlarge are fairly cheap, plus there's rules for hiring a wizard to cast a spell for you, meaning you could have the enlarge made permanent if you so wished.

jumpydady · Post by **jumpydady** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:58 pm

hum something like because my dm would love to explore against our weakness and one of his fav methods is grinding us, our missions are mostly continuous and hours without a possiblity of resting so something that cant be permanent would be no good...

GawainBS · Post by **GawainBS** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:21 am

Syberis just pointed out how you can make an Enlarge Person spell permanent.

jumpydady · Post by **jumpydady** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:16 pm

ups good idea, althought I hate being large

Siberys · Post by **Siberys** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:31 pm

Fair enough, one last suggestion. If your not wanting it permanent but wanting it to last as long as you choose to, ask your DM if there's anyone in the game who can craft a magic item, and if so, there's a fairly simple way of solving this.

The item itself could go on virtually any slot, could be a belt, could be a bracer, doesn't matter. Since it's the only slot that allows two uses, I'll go with a Ring for the time being.

Ring of Enlarge/Reduce-
On the ring is a small dial that allows the user to twist it to three settings, Large, Normal and Small. When either on the large or small setting, the user becomes one size category larger or smaller until he changes the dial.
~Enlarge Person, Reduce Person. Craft Wondrous Item. 12,000 GP, 320XP.

Now, I didn't just make up that price, and you can show your DM this in the dungeon masters guide or the SRD here (Both will say the same thing)-
Creating Magic Items :: d20srd.org

Continuous Item For Enlarge- Spell Level x Caster Level x 2000 (1x1x2000 = 2000GP)
Continuous Item for Reduce- Spell Level x Caster Level x 2000 (1x1x2000 = 2000GP)
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Total is 4000GP so far

Duration of 1 Minute per level- Multiply cost by 2 (8000GP)
Multiple Different Abilities- Multiply Entire cost by 1.5 (12,000GP)

If you have an Epic Bow, 12,000 GP is not a lot of coin.