Israel Spy Ring and 9/11

[Maharlika]

www.whatreallyhappened.com

Another one of those "conspiracy theories." It's your call if you believe in this or not.

This site was pointed out to me by my Aussie friend. I figured a number of you would find it interesting.

[Default]

See these days, there are so much scandals and theories that I have a hard time defining the word conspiracy. How the heck am I suppose to know if this is fact or fiction. Sometimes, I think government makes cheapy websites that covers the real story, so that readers would think it's a joke while it really happened. But if people think it's a joke on the internet, the incident will pass and the government wins again. But then, there's always those nuts out there trying to pull tricks on "us".

This website is actually quite serious about what it's talking about, so I'm like 50/50 on believing it....

[Maharlika]

Feel the same way.

@Default: Ditto. However, if we have the means to verify such "theory".....

Unfortunately I don't have the means to verify them.

[CM]

Hey if you believe all this, you might as well believe the jews had a hand it this as well.

[Morlock]

This actually happened. The Ken Starr report on Whitewater describes how Bill Clinton informed Monica Lewinsky that their phone sex conversations had been recorded. At the same time, Clinton ordered the FBI to cease the hunt for an Israeli mole known to be operating inside the White House itself!

This is in know way confirmed.
First of all I tend to doubt any form of media saying "This actually happened".
Second, you notice how that line refers only to the first sentence, same as the Ken Starr report, they offer no verification of the second sentence.

But far more telling is the admission made by a US Official in part one of the Fox News report that hard evidence existed linking the events of 9/11 not to Arab Muslims, but to some of the more than 200 Israeli spies arrested both before and after 9/11, but that this evidence had been CLASSIFIED.

An anonymous government official cannot say that 200 spies were arrested if the evidence is classified.
I also tend to doubt that Fox would have such a huge discovery, exclusivly and for a very short time. They are not that good.

This seems a harsh gratitude from a nation which obtains 10% of its annual budget from the American taxpayer, $3+ billion a year. Over the years, American taxpayers have been required to send Israel more than four times what the US spent to go to the moon.

They seem to be forgetting about all the other countries who get support from the U.S.
The moon landing didn't cost very much in today's standards.

I am not denying the act that Israel has and possibly still does have spies in the US, but:

1. I don't believe that Clinton would let a mole go because of his sex life.

2. If there was a massive spy ring, I have a hard time beliving the unconfirmed theory that They had something to do with 9/11.

3. Why, despite the spy ring, has the US government ben suppotive of Israel, before and after 9/11?
Bush, Rice, Powell, Rumesfeld and chaney have all publicly displayed support for Israel.
Over the past 3 months, the governer, a senator, the incoming and outgoing mayors of New york and a former president have paid solidarity visits, and expresed their staunch support for Israel. (Pataki, Giuliani and Bloomberg came in December, Hillary Clinton came this past week end and Bill Clinton came last month)

4. Spies exist all over the world. Between allys and enemys a like.
The US bugged a plane sent to the Chinese premeir.
A US spyplane was caught.
The Russians sent spy Marcus Klinger to Israel.
The Russians used Robert Hansen and the Rosenbergs in the US.
The Israelis sent spy Ellie Cohen to Seria in the 60's.
There are many more examples to spying- no country can say they have not used espionage on allys.

This report, in my opinion, is a complete fake when it comes to 9/11. It is based on an unconfirmed report that lasted a few days.Israel is one of the last countries to hurt the US, seeing as how they get so much mony from them.

[Maharlika]

Originally posted by CM
Hey if you believe all this, you might as well believe the jews had a hand it this as well.

I wont believe in anything unless the veracity of such accusations are well established and proven beyond reasonable doubt.

The problem is, it may or may not be true, judging the arguments presented in the site.

As for now, it is for me just that --- a theory, though an interesting one.

[CM]

Mar yaar (urdu for good friend) i didn't mean it like that.
It is just that i am sick and tired of these theories.
After sept 11th had some newspaper had an article which stated that a couple of people were found at the top of a building and were recording the whole attack, they had sophisticated equipment recording equipment etc.
Then some other newspaper stated that 4000 jews were not at the WTC.
They had not shown up that day.
Then there was an the Washington Post article that said around 60 jews were rounded up and deported for "unspecified" reasons.

Pakistani site - for the discussion on the "Jewish link"

http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/Forum25/HTML/002506.html


The washington post article.
http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/Forum25/HTML/003225.html

Had to edit for changing around the newspapers and links.

[Maharlika]

Chill out, amigo.

Originally posted by CM
Mar yaar (urdu for good friend) i didn't mean it like that.
It is just that i am sick and tired of these theories.

*chuckles* Nothing to it, my friend. It's just that I find this "twisting theory" interesting, and being far removed from all these stuff mentioned in the site, I am very much interested what the others (like you) have to say about it.

Peace, brethren.

[CM]

Say about it?
Nothing Absolutely nothing!

Honestly i would step on alot of toes if i started discussing politics here.
And would ultimately get banned.
This is a gaming site no need to discuss stuff like politics here.

But do i believe all this spet 11th jewish stuff??
No.
I don't believe it to far fetched for me.
I like solid grounded statements that are factually based, not when just one newspaper covers a single article and call it the truth.

[fable]

I put this one right up there alongside government mind control rays, Clinton assassinating all his enemies, and Soviet-grown mutant alligators roaming the sewers of New York City.

[CM]

Originally posted by fable
I put this one right up there alongside government mind control rays, Clinton assassinating all his enemies, and Soviet-grown mutant alligators roaming the sewers of New York City.

You can't be serious!
Some actually published this stuff???

[Maharlika]

Ok, THAT's IT!!!!!

Originally posted by fable
I put this one right up there alongside government mind control rays, Clinton assassinating all his enemies, and Soviet-grown mutant alligators roaming the sewers of New York City.

You had me there, fable! I'm convinced...this conspiracy is true afterall!

[fable]

Originally posted by CM
You can't be serious!
Some actually published this stuff???

@CM, there are still people who believe that Reagan invaded Granada because the Soviets planned to launch a massive biological attack on the US from there. Some people believe that the WWII Holocaust never occurred, and that it's all a mockup created by Jews with the American government. There are also people who feel that Kennedy was assassinated by a worldwide occult fraternity that felt he was bringing on a new millenium too soon.

And yes, all of this stuff is published. Every last bit of dementia is fervently followed by claustrophobic groups whose minds never see the light of day. Frightening, isn't it?

[Mr Sleep]

What about the Staged Mars Landings?

There is also circumstantial proof to say the moon landings never happened