Big (GOD) Problem

ARcheR_S_ · Post by **ARcheR_S_** » Mon May 20, 2002 10:23 am

Big (GOD) Problem (Spoiler)

I have a very big problem.

It starts with this: I just finished the Unseeing Eye quest ( I am in chapter 2 and have done like ¾ of the available quests there (I got the CF, incase this guy is someone who comes for it after installing Sola Mod and Deeper Shadows of Amn)).

Now, he deals like 30 damage every hit, no save I believe, he always has protection from magical energy/weapons on. And very time I do hit (or fail to hit him) I get an acid arrow shot up my ***.
This is really annoying. Also when I go with the cursor over his head it doesn’t show anything (not a name, not hp-status). When everyone got killed only me (Archer) survived. I used like 10 invisible potions and like 20 healing potions and shot him like 30 times (5-10 damage each hit). Still NOT DEAD.

Who is this guy and how do I defeat him??

p.s.: When he first arrives he has a girlie voice, which says: Ooooh, This is not a good day.
Then after 30 sec his voice becomes manly and the killing starts.

-ARcheR_S_

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Stilgar · Post by **Stilgar** » Mon May 20, 2002 10:50 am

No idea who it is,
you're sure you didn't accidently attack a important NPC?

ARcheR_S_ · Post by **ARcheR_S_** » Mon May 20, 2002 11:04 am

I believe I havent attacked any important NPC's. Ive taken the same actions as in my former games and it didnt happen then.

(maybe Sola or Tashia mod??)

-ARcheR_S_

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Stilgar · Post by **Stilgar** » Mon May 20, 2002 11:44 am

Sorry, then i can't help you.
Never heared of te guy.

Catalyst · Post by **Catalyst** » Mon May 20, 2002 11:49 am

Archer, this character is Kuroisan, part of the Sola mod. He (she?) comes after your Celestial Fury. I also had a hell of a time taking Kuro down, but here are some tips to make it less frustrating
(SPOILERS below).

OK, Kuro is wielding a blade called Sanchuudoku. Not only does this make Kuro Immune to Acid, but every time he's struck the blade inflicts an "Acid backlash" at his attacker. So, step one in defeating Kuroisan: Protection from Acid. This is a *must*. Second, Kuroisan starts off immune to magic weapons, and also has spell immunities (Abjuration, possibly Divination) cast to prevent you from *dispelling* this protection.
Essentially, your tactic must be something like this: Protection from Acid. Then, evade or wait out Kuro until the protections wear off, then step in and wail away with everything you've got (only with characters protected from that backlash, it's a killer!). Note that Sanchuudoku also bestows regeneration at a rate of *1 hp per second*, so you must prevent Kuro from running away by blocking him in. I had to chase him all over the damn place, as he kept running away and regenerating.

One final note that seems to be a bug in the way the acid backlash works; whenever I wielded Sanchuudoku against opponents with Fireshield active, the acid backlash would actually hurt *me* instead, despite the acid immunity the blade supposedly betows. So, try letting Kuro flail away at a mage with Stoneskins and Fireshield up, let me know if that tactic works.

ARcheR_S_ · Post by **ARcheR_S_** » Mon May 20, 2002 12:07 pm

Thx for the reply Catalyst. Ill try too defeat him with these tactics.

But is it normall that i dont see his name or hitpoint status??

Or when he attacks it shows this: attacks Minsc

instead of: Kuroisan attacks Minsc

-ARcheR_S_

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genxooseven · Post by **genxooseven** » Mon May 20, 2002 1:04 pm

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UserUnfriendly's Tactic for the Kurosian

Ok, had a bit of trouble with kurosian, the acid ninja, not samurai...no samurai would stoop to stealing other peoples toys....

and while i whacked him, i felt bad cause i did not have a userunfreindly sure fired tactic for whacking him with no fuss...

found it,...its all about spawn control, if you know how to get him in the right location, you can take him with a low powered party...

get as many prot from acid scrolls as possible....after doing the guarded compound, have pc cast 2 prot from acid on himself...go outside, and then equipp celestial fury...

sleep...

you may get the roust by guards, just ignore them for the orc bait they are, and sleep again...

kurosian will spawn on the bridge in front of you...

by now you do have 2 rings of ram, right??? use them to PUSH(they will get thru his spell immunity and prot from magic weapons, and will NOT activate acid revenge...) him INTO the temple of lathander...now, when you get near the temple, happend 3 times while i was testing this tactic...(if you run out of charges, stick into handy gem bag for a secons, and they are fully recharged... )

black sun bozos will spawn...let them taste celestial fury, and then slowly count til 30....

then go in the temple...his spell immunity and prot from magic weapons is WORN off, and i chunked him with celestial fury (payback time, yeah, baby, yeah!!!), now the BEST sword in the game is yours...

the regen alone is too good, better than black razor, cuase it is one hp per second...

and the acid revenge fits my mood very well...

My cheesier method

Get a protection from acid scroll 1st of all and Wand of Cloudkill. Whenever Kurosian appears turn off parties AI and head for the nearest house. He should immediately cast Prot. from Mag/Mag Weapons and just wait for them to wear off in the house where it's safe. Next cast Stoneskin on your mage who plans to use the wand, followed by protection from acid. Once ur protected have ur mage run out of the house and pause, target the Cloudkill at Kuro and make sure there's no civilians around or your gonna take a loss in rep. He should immediately run towards you or cast a death fog targeted at you, whatever he does wait till he comes close enough to the door where your party ran in. When he's close enough cast another Cloudkill targeted around the area around the building is where your party ran in. Have your mage mage run back in the house and wait for 2-3 seconds for the casting delay. Now have him run in and out throwing a Cloudkill at Kuro whenevr he runs out the building. Cast Stoneskin whenever needed and just repeat the process over and over. Make sure you keep on top of him cause he regenerates 1 HP per second with the Acid Katana. Eventually he'll be dead and you'll have the 2nd best weapon in the game IMHO.

By the way I chose the City gates for my battle with him. Nearly empty there and he always spawns at the top of the map and will be blocked by the City Gate Guards for a few seconds for you to run in the only building in the area. The area helped alot.

Hope these help!

ARcheR_S_ · Post by **ARcheR_S_** » Tue May 21, 2002 9:27 am

Well i was finally able to kick his butt

I just throwed everything i got at him (used all my summons) and let 1 NPC run around all the time (the one he was chasing). This way my summons and me (ARcheR) could defeat him.

Still, some things are not clear too me. How comes he has no name or hp-status??
Or when i check his equipment, his sword has no information at all................How come??

Ohh yeah...........Userunfriendly, if u read this i got a question: Is it possible 2 make this character: Half-Elf (male) - Kensai/Archer/Mage who levels up as if a multiclass character(who can use longbow and longsword??).........Is it possible 2 edit this with shadowkeeper??

-Thx anyway

-ARcheR_S_

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DreAM YouR liFe...........................live YouR DReAM

kopywrite · Post by **kopywrite** » Tue May 21, 2002 11:25 am

Originally posted by Catalyst
One final note that seems to be a bug in the way the acid backlash works; whenever I wielded Sanchuudoku against opponents with Fireshield active, the acid backlash would actually hurt *me* instead, despite the acid immunity the blade supposedly betows. So, try letting Kuro flail away at a mage with Stoneskins and Fireshield up, let me know if that tactic works.

This happened to me too, infact it killed me at one point

But I don't think its a bug...you hit something with fireshield which damages you which cause the acid backlash to hit them which inturn causes their fireshield to hit you again and so on. Hey presto you're dead. Still it may be a bug... interesting, I'm going to test and see what happens.

EDIT; yeah, it did it again with both chars dying rapidly...the damage the katana weilding character took was from the other character's fire shield rather than acid, so the immunity must work. Beware using this sword against fireshield

ARcheR_S_ · Post by **ARcheR_S_** » Tue May 21, 2002 1:49 pm

Well i was finally able to kick his butt

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I just throwed everything i got at him (used all my summons) and let 1 NPC run around all the time (the one he was chasing). This way my summons and me (ARcheR) could defeat him.

Still, some things are not clear too me. How comes he has no name or hp-status??
Or when i check his equipment, his sword has no information at all................How come??

Ohh yeah...........Userunfriendly, if u read this i got a question: Is it possible 2 make this character: Half-Elf (male) - Kensai/Archer/Mage who levels up as if a multiclass character(who can use longbow and longsword??).........Is it possible 2 edit this with shadowkeeper??

-Thx anyway

-ARcheR_S_

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ANYONE??

Aubrey · Post by **Aubrey** » Tue May 21, 2002 2:01 pm

ARcheR_S_

Just to let you know that your starting post on this thread made me cry out of laugh.

I know the whole situation is very irritating and annoying for you, but hey! I don't read often such vivid and imaginary descriptions. Promise you won't get mad at me.

I haven't been that far into the game, but I think I'm getting closer. When this happened were you carrying CF with you (in your inventory) or was held by one of you party?

Cheers

genxooseven · Post by **genxooseven** » Tue May 21, 2002 4:30 pm

Kurosian will appear after you kill Koshi and take the CF off him. As far as I know as long as you have the CF somewhere located on your party he will appear either by resting or moving to a different area in Athkatla.

kopywrite · Post by **kopywrite** » Wed May 22, 2002 1:27 am

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I think the wu-jen also appears if you have the +2katana from the spellhold dungeon.

Cespenar · Post by **Cespenar** » Wed May 22, 2002 2:30 am

Sorry to do this, as it has -nothing- to do with defeating that guy. I have met him once though, he was more of a bug than anything, he did exactly what archer said, with the same "Oooh this is not a good day" but he wasn't called Kurosian, he was called "What In The Nine Hells Was That?!" and he wanted something from Tashia, dont know what though coz i reloaded and he never came back......any clues to why he was different?

genxooseven · Post by **genxooseven** » Wed May 22, 2002 3:31 am

Nice. I didn't know he appears when you pick up Malakar. Maybe I'll grab that katana 1st instead of CF next time just to see what happens.

kopywrite · Post by **kopywrite** » Wed May 22, 2002 3:35 am

Yeah that's what its called...

Aubrey · Post by **Aubrey** » Wed May 22, 2002 6:28 am

I've got CF, but not on me

I have stored it in Waukeen's Promenade. There is none in my party that he/she can use it --so far. And this guy hasn't appeared either. So, I suppose I have to put it somewhere in my inventory for him to appear, right?

Cheers

kopywrite · Post by **kopywrite** » Wed May 22, 2002 6:41 am

@ Aubrey:

Yup, you need to have CF or Malakar about your person...I'm not sure if just having one of them in your pack spawns him or if you need it to be equipped..

I'd stock up with PfA scrolls in the mean time

ARcheR_S_ · Post by **ARcheR_S_** » Wed May 22, 2002 8:34 am

LOL............not mad Aubrey, but these awnsers dont exactly awnser MY question.

Yes i had the CF (Nalia was carrying it), but i moved straight to the beholder lair after defeating those guys. So this kuroisan guy (or something) came after me like 3 days later.

When i tried too use genxooseven's tactics he just followed me inside the house, so cloudkill tactic could be skipped. Also when i left the area (in this case temple district).........and then tried to rest at the gates he didnt follow me. If i wanted to kill him again i had to come too him.

So when fighting him he had NO DESCRIPTION above his head (so it didnt show he was kuroisan), NOR A HP-STATUS...........then when i defeated him, his ACID KATANA HAD NO DESCRIPTION OR INFORMATION AT ALL.

So this WAS AND IS my question: Is this supposed to be like this????

-ARcheR_S_

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kopywrite · Post by **kopywrite** » Wed May 22, 2002 9:08 am

@ARcheR_S_:

Jeez,why didn't you say?

No its not supposed to be like that...have you tried reinstalling the mod?

Have you got the newest version? Its v56 now.