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Your little problem here is that Liches (the powerful and cruel) and the highest of the so called undead.

It might not be enough with an level 16 cleric to injure them they might need an level 30 or something around there... IMHO ofcourse...=)

BUT i'm not really sure if there is possible to turn the liches...but it should work...actually...

liches need a very high level cleric to turn ...also viccy turn undead turns them green circle, thus they attack your enemies....aerie at lv 30 blows up liches before their scripts finish casting their first spell, as liches can see past the sanctuary.....turn, unlike spells are not capped at level 20, so a 40th level cleric can if they are neutral or good blow up demiliches....

use clua console to take her up to lv 25 or so, and use prot from undead scroll, liches can see invisible, so sanctuary will still auto trigger their spell scripts....and if you wait a few seconds, it should turn green and attack its buddies....

warning, prot from undead may not trigger certain spawns, so you may have to move in a unprotected char close by to trigger a map area creature spawn...

also check her stats, you should be able to find her turn level...

Turn Undead

Clerics and paladins can Turn Undead. The affected undead, 2-12 (2d6) in number, will either run away from the priest or be dispelled into oblivion. A paladin turns undead as a cleric of two levels lower. To initiate attempts to turn, the Turn Undead button must be selected and the only other thing the character can do is walk around. The chance of successful turning are summarized in the table below where a number denotes what the cleric must roll on a d20 or less. A "T" indicates that the undead are automatically turned, "D" indicates they are automatically dispelled, while the cleric is not strong enough to affect creatures marked with "--". If the cleric is evil, the table indicates the chances that the cleric can control the undead where "T" means they will automatically obey the priest and "D" indicates they will become completely subserviant to the cleric. "*" indicates an additional 2-8 (2d4) creatures are turned.

Level Of Cleric
1 --
2 --
3 --
4 --
5 --
6 --
7 --
8 20
9 19
10-11 16
12-13 13
14+ 10


Here is a break down to turn a lich Sorry it is only up to level 14.

I chunked my first lich at 22 or so. I'd have killed it in melee easily by that time, but still it made me proud.

What about cloak of non-detection?

Does non-detection do anybody any good?

Explain plz. Give examples. I have not found it useful. :\

I thinl liches see through any invisiblilty, however if you are in stealth mode and a mage casts true sight you will not be found if you ware the cloak

Thanks for the feedback everybody, I´ll also have to check out the turn undead cheese in the umar hills quest, as mentioned in the cheese guide.

cheese guide.

What kind of cheese guide? Where can I find it?
(Not that I like cheese, of course... )

its mostly in littiz, my, alson and xyx's head....

jae is probably referring to using sanctuary on aerie or viccy and turn undead and move into a room, explode them all, and keep moving until you have cleared a major area...lots of fun, much like the infamous sanctuary blade barrior trick...turn off ai, cast sancturary, blade barrior and move next to creature...it takes damage and dies...

Originally posted by NiteWulf
What kind of cheese guide? Where can I find it?
(Not that I like cheese, of course... )

Just in case you haven´t found it yet, "The improved guide to cheese" is the title, in this very forum.

its mostly in littiz, my, alson and xyx's head....

Poor me, am I a referent for cheese now?
What an ungloriuos end for the opposer of all cheeses!!

Originally posted by Littiz
Poor me, am I a referent for cheese now?
What an ungloriuos end for the opposer of all cheeses!!

So you know your enemies well, and people know this about you!
Cheer up, there's nothing unglorious in that, my friend!