Cleric or Druid

Stilgar · Post by **Stilgar** » Wed Feb 19, 2003 12:02 pm

When I create a party, I always only have 1 pries-spell caster.
Which one should I take? Cleric or druid?
And what are the benefits of both?
I tend to like druids better, but for no apparent reason, and i'm not familiar with third edition druids or clerics.

Mr.Waesel · Post by **Mr.Waesel** » Wed Feb 19, 2003 1:55 pm

I've only just started playing IWD 2, but here's what i know, based on PnP 3e:

Clerics get more healing spells, since they can "spontaneously cast" cure spells (they can drop spells they've prepared for a cure spell of the same level), so they are better healers (and they get Mass Heal, though i doubt it's implemented in IWD 2.)
Clerics also get domain spells: an extra spell per level from a certain them (such as fire, evil or healing), the domains depending on the god whose follower your cleric is.

Druids cant use ANY iron, meaning the heaviyest armor they can wear is hide, and they're stuck with clubs forever. Druids get moer nature-oriented spells, just like in BG2.(Creeping Doom! yay! If this spell works like in PnP, it deals 1000 damage to cretaures in the area who can be hurt by nonmagical weapons) Also, they can wild shape several times a day. This means changing into an animal, thereby gaining its STR, DEX, CON, and a bonus to AC (if any.)

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Gruntboy · Post by **Gruntboy** » Wed Feb 19, 2003 3:41 pm

As I am aware from the multiclass thread, Druids rock in IWD2.

They're over-powered, apparently.

Patrick · Post by **Patrick** » Wed Feb 19, 2003 5:34 pm

I think at 16th level I had like 7 shapechanges for my druid and she could wear heavy armour abd still cast spells. Shape changing is one way to heal 12 hitpoints at a time

lompo · Post by **lompo** » Thu Feb 20, 2003 4:26 am

Originally posted by Gruntboy
As I am aware from the multiclass thread, Druids rock in IWD2.

They're over-powered, apparently.

And so are the Cleric!
Take both and drop a tank !
My next party could be
Tank
rogue (with some warrior lev.)
Cleric
Sorcerer
Wizard
Druid
Eventually one of the last two can be changed to a Bard.

lonely wolf · Post by **lonely wolf** » Thu Feb 20, 2003 12:49 pm

1.what is a tank?
3. i think like lompo: clerics are fine as druids

Stilgar · Post by **Stilgar** » Thu Feb 20, 2003 1:01 pm

Originally posted by lonely wolf
1.what is a tank?

A strong fighter,
the people that you just send into battle, without taking to much care of them.

Patrick · Post by **Patrick** » Thu Feb 20, 2003 9:37 pm

My druid could survive butt offensively she was the worst. Some good spells though, Sol's searing orb.

Stilgar · Post by **Stilgar** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 4:06 am

Can I get a druid proficient in wearing heavy armor, and stil cast / shapchange while wearing it?

Patrick · Post by **Patrick** » Fri Feb 21, 2003 5:22 pm

I think you can

Jaesha · Post by **Jaesha** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 5:36 am

Originally posted by Stilgar
Can I get a druid proficient in wearing heavy armor, and stil cast / shapchange while wearing it?

Yup.

I'd take a druid any day. Shapechange dire panther/bear is awesome, they get rock-hard spells like creeping doom and smashing wave, and there is some hardcore equipment for them out there.

lonely wolf · Post by **lonely wolf** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 10:13 am

it is really good that the druid can polimporph his self.
but i didn't understand- also wizards can polymorph themselves?

Jaesha · Post by **Jaesha** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 11:17 am

Originally posted by lonely wolf
it is really good that the druid can polimporph his self.
but i didn't understand- also wizards can polymorph themselves?

Nope, they cannot. The closest you'll get is the Iron Body spell which transforms their body into a huge iron golem.

lonely wolf · Post by **lonely wolf** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 12:54 pm

but in NWN my wizard had a "polymprph self" spell!!!

Mr.Waesel · Post by **Mr.Waesel** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 3:18 pm

SO? They have too in Bg2, and in PnP....but that's no guarantee

Jaesha · Post by **Jaesha** » Mon Feb 24, 2003 1:38 am

w00t! Mr. Waesel strikes back!

May I just say that you are a true legend, mr. W!
...it's a SYM thing...

lonely wolf · Post by **lonely wolf** » Mon Feb 24, 2003 10:34 am

but it's stupid- why shouldn't they get a "polymorph self" spell in IWD2 if the druids can polymorph in IWD2?

Mr.Waesel · Post by **Mr.Waesel** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:46 am

Originally posted by Jaesha
w00t! Mr. Waesel strikes back!

May I just say that you are a true legend, mr. W!
...it's a SYM thing...

Tell me all about it, Jaesha...

Originally posted by lonely wolf
but it's stupid- why shouldn't they get a "polymorph self" spell in IWD2 if the druids can polymorph in IWD2?

It isn't polymorph self, it's Wild Shape. There's a subtle difference

. But seriously: I don't know, i would love to have it though...i love to polymorph myself into a troll in PnP

lonely wolf · Post by **lonely wolf** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 10:24 am

o.k.
understood