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Cleric or Druid

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2003 12:02 pm
by Stilgar
When I create a party, I always only have 1 pries-spell caster.
Which one should I take? Cleric or druid?
And what are the benefits of both?
I tend to like druids better, but for no apparent reason, and i'm not familiar with third edition druids or clerics.

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2003 1:55 pm
by Mr.Waesel
I've only just started playing IWD 2, but here's what i know, based on PnP 3e:

Clerics get more healing spells, since they can "spontaneously cast" cure spells (they can drop spells they've prepared for a cure spell of the same level), so they are better healers (and they get Mass Heal, though i doubt it's implemented in IWD 2.)
Clerics also get domain spells: an extra spell per level from a certain them (such as fire, evil or healing), the domains depending on the god whose follower your cleric is.

Druids cant use ANY iron, meaning the heaviyest armor they can wear is hide, and they're stuck with clubs forever. Druids get moer nature-oriented spells, just like in BG2.(Creeping Doom! yay! If this spell works like in PnP, it deals 1000 damage to cretaures in the area who can be hurt by nonmagical weapons) Also, they can wild shape several times a day. This means changing into an animal, thereby gaining its STR, DEX, CON, and a bonus to AC (if any.)


P.S: I frequently have eels in my car. Know a good exterminator? ;)

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2003 3:41 pm
by Gruntboy
As I am aware from the multiclass thread, Druids rock in IWD2.

They're over-powered, apparently.

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2003 5:34 pm
by Patrick
I think at 16th level I had like 7 shapechanges for my druid and she could wear heavy armour abd still cast spells. Shape changing is one way to heal 12 hitpoints at a time

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 4:26 am
by lompo
Originally posted by Gruntboy
As I am aware from the multiclass thread, Druids rock in IWD2.

They're over-powered, apparently.


And so are the Cleric!
Take both and drop a tank !
My next party could be
Tank
rogue (with some warrior lev.)
Cleric
Sorcerer
Wizard
Druid
Eventually one of the last two can be changed to a Bard.

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 12:49 pm
by lonely wolf
1.what is a tank?
3. i think like lompo: clerics are fine as druids :D

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 1:01 pm
by Stilgar
Originally posted by lonely wolf
1.what is a tank?
A strong fighter,
the people that you just send into battle, without taking to much care of them.

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 9:37 pm
by Patrick
My druid could survive butt offensively she was the worst. Some good spells though, Sol's searing orb.

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 4:06 am
by Stilgar
Can I get a druid proficient in wearing heavy armor, and stil cast / shapchange while wearing it?

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 5:22 pm
by Patrick
I think you can

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 5:36 am
by Jaesha
Originally posted by Stilgar
Can I get a druid proficient in wearing heavy armor, and stil cast / shapchange while wearing it?


Yup.

I'd take a druid any day. Shapechange dire panther/bear is awesome, they get rock-hard spells like creeping doom and smashing wave, and there is some hardcore equipment for them out there.

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 10:13 am
by lonely wolf
it is really good that the druid can polimporph his self.
but i didn't understand- also wizards can polymorph themselves?

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 11:17 am
by Jaesha
Originally posted by lonely wolf
it is really good that the druid can polimporph his self.
but i didn't understand- also wizards can polymorph themselves?


Nope, they cannot. The closest you'll get is the Iron Body spell which transforms their body into a huge iron golem.

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 12:54 pm
by lonely wolf
but in NWN my wizard had a "polymprph self" spell!!! :D

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 3:18 pm
by Mr.Waesel
SO? They have too in Bg2, and in PnP....but that's no guarantee

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 1:38 am
by Jaesha
w00t! Mr. Waesel strikes back!

May I just say that you are a true legend, mr. W!

...it's a SYM thing...

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 10:34 am
by lonely wolf
but it's stupid- why shouldn't they get a "polymorph self" spell in IWD2 if the druids can polymorph in IWD2?

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:46 am
by Mr.Waesel
Originally posted by Jaesha
w00t! Mr. Waesel strikes back!

May I just say that you are a true legend, mr. W!

...it's a SYM thing...


Tell me all about it, Jaesha... :D
Originally posted by lonely wolf
but it's stupid- why shouldn't they get a "polymorph self" spell in IWD2 if the druids can polymorph in IWD2?


It isn't polymorph self, it's Wild Shape. There's a subtle difference :P . But seriously: I don't know, i would love to have it though...i love to polymorph myself into a troll in PnP ;)

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 10:24 am
by lonely wolf
o.k.
understood :) ;) :D