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Bonuses?

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 9:29 am
by XazaX
Which bonuses will u get if u buy BG 2 CE?? :confused:

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:50 am
by garazdawi
IIRC you get three extra merchants (in the game) and some fan club stuff.....

you can also download the merchants from the BG2 part of GB's walkthroughs....

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:51 am
by XazaX
Thanks

Thanks :)

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:00 am
by Xanth
Three merchants? I can only think of two... Joluv and Diedre. Have I been overlooking one all this time?

Also, out of the two I mentioned, only one comes with the collectors edition. The other came with the pre-order version, so if you do decide to get the CE (it's not like either costs that much now anyway) be sure to download the bonus merchants anyway. You can find a link to a download in the BG reference crossroads up at the top of the forum.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:27 am
by Galuf the Dwarf
Dierdre is available with the official SoA/ToB patch, so if you have that, you'll be able to access her in the Adventurer's Mart.

However, I also suggest that you download the bonus merchants anyway, XazaX.

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 12:37 am
by garazdawi
Originally posted by Xanth
Three merchants? I can only think of two... Joluv and Diedre. Have I been overlooking one all this time?

Also, out of the two I mentioned, only one comes with the collectors edition. The other came with the pre-order version, so if you do decide to get the CE (it's not like either costs that much now anyway) be sure to download the bonus merchants anyway. You can find a link to a download in the BG reference crossroads up at the top of the forum.
There is one in the copper coronet as well...

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 7:32 am
by fable
The Adventurers' Mart, and the Copper Coronet, one at each location. I've never heard of a third in the official version.

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 7:46 am
by garazdawi
Originally posted by fable
The Adventurers' Mart, and the Copper Coronet, one at each location. I've never heard of a third in the official version.
Isn't there two in the copper coronet? Deidre and some other guy???

EDIT: just checked the walkthrough and there is no "other guy", sry to have mislead you.

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 2:04 am
by Xanth
No problem, just making sure I hadn't been missing anything. Maybe you have an extra store in the copper coronet from some mod?

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 2:59 am
by garazdawi
Originally posted by Xanth
No problem, just making sure I hadn't been missing anything. Maybe you have an extra store in the copper coronet from some mod?
There are two merchants from the bonus merchants Deidre(Adventurers Mart) and Joluv(Copper Coronet)

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 9:24 am
by fable
Originally posted by garazdawi
There are two merchants from the bonus merchants Deidre(Adventurers Mart) and Joluv(Copper Coronet)


Yes, but his point (and mine, in a previous post) is that Xazax might be running a mod that adds a third merchant. :)

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 10:02 am
by UserUnfriendly
Originally posted by fable
Yes, but his point (and mine, in a previous post) is that Xazax might be running a mod that adds a third merchant. :)


possibly ruad, or the munch mods... :p

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:26 am
by fable
Originally posted by UserUnfriendly
possibly ruad, or the munch mods... :p


True. And not that's there much need for 'em. There's so many items as it is in SoA, while the stuff I've seen added by mods are really godlike. Might as well get the weapons then give the game to a seven-year-old and let them play every combat by script. :rolleyes:

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 8:59 am
by Mr.Waesel
Are the bonus mercahnt items balanced? Do you think I should download them? (I'm currently running with Tactics and Sola)

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 9:14 am
by Numinor
The items from the official bonus merchants are mostly "good", but not as good as most items added through tactics/item upgrade mod etc. Though some are a bit cheesy (*cough* Shield of Balduran *cough*) most are quiet balanced IMO.

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 9:24 am
by fable
As Numinor said. The Shield of Balduran's really the only cheesy one I can think of. Most of the weapons and armor I've found in mods outside the official bonus merchants have been extremely cheesy--which is inexplicable, since the game's already easy enough as it is without removing in the mild challenges left in the game.

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 9:29 am
by Stilgar
i think the robe of Vecna is a little overpowered.
But then again, there isnt realy a good selection of wizzardrobes in the game

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 9:56 am
by UncleScratchy
Bonus merchant items
Originally posted by Mr.Waesel
Are the bonus mercahnt items balanced? Do you think I should download them? (I'm currently running with Tactics and Sola)
Joluv's (Copper Coronet merchant) items are from IWD. They are overpriced and not all that good compared to items you might find via questing. There is an off chance that you might find an item there that just suits one of your characters. Here's some of the items you can buy from him so you can decide for yourself:

Axe of Hrothgar +3
This axe was wielded by an adventurer who lived within the town of Easthaven in Icewind Dale. He died about a century ago trying to rescue his town from the ancient demon Balhifet.

STATISTICS:

Equipped Abilities:
+1 Charisma
+1 Wisdom
THAC0: +3 bonus
Damage: 1D8 +3
Damage type: slashing
Weight: 5
Speed Factor: 4
Proficiency Type: Axe
Type: 1-handed
Requires: 10 Strength
Not Usable By: Druid, Cleric, Mage, Thief


Defender of Easthaven +3
This flail was created a century ago to commerate the defeat of the demon Balhifet. It was meant to always remain within the town of Easthaven to remind the people of the great evil that had been barely defeated.

STATISTICS:

Equipped Abilities:
+1 AC bonus
+20% resistance to slashing, piercing, and blunt damage
THACO: +2 bonus
Damage: 1D6 + 2
Damage type: crushing
Weight: 12
Speed Factor: 5
Proficiency Type: Flail/Morningstar
Type: 1-handed
Requires: 13 Strength
Not Usable By: Druid, Mage, Thief

Jerrod's Mace
This was the favored weapon of the priest of Tempus named Jerrod. Jerrod sacrificed his life to save the town of Easthaven from the powerful demon known as Balhifet.

STATISTICS:

THACO: +2 bonus, +5 vs. demons
Damage: 1D6 + 3, +5 vs. demons
Damage type: crushing
Weight: 7
Speed Factor: 5
Proficiency Type: Mace
Type: 1-handed
Not Usable By: Druid, Mage, Thief

Everard's Morning Star +2
This morning star was the personal weapon of the cleric Everard. Everard was a powerful priest of Tempus who sacrificed his life in the battle against the demon Balhifet.

STATISTICS:

Combat Ability: 50% chance per hit of making targeted spellcaster lose one spell from memory
THACO: +2 bonus
Damage: 2D4 +2
Damage type: crushing
Weight: 9
Speed Factor: 5
Proficiency Type: Flail/Morningstar
Type: 1-handed
Requires: 11 Strength
Not Usable By: Druid, Mage, Thief

Sling of Everard
The sling of Everard was a holy weapon created by the god Tempus and given to Everard to help him defeat the enemies of Icewind Dale.

STATISTICS:

Equipped Ability: does not require bullets
THACO: +5 bonus
Damage: +2 (missile damage)
Weight: 0
Speed Factor: 0
Proficiency Type: Sling
Type: 1-handed
Requires: 3 Strength

Spear of Kuldahar +3
This spear was forged by the druids who dwelt close to the great tree of Kuldahar. It was meant to be used by the warrior who was appointed as Kuldahar's defender.

STATISTICS:

Equipped Ability: +8 to max hit points
THAC0: +3 bonus
Damage: 1D6 +3
Damage type: piercing
Weight: 3
Speed Factor: 3
Proficiency Type: Spear
Type: 2-handed
Requires: 5 Strength
Not Usable By: Cleric, Mage, Thief

Joril's Dagger (Two Handed Sword +3)
Joril was a powerful Frost giant that lived with his clan in the Spine of the World. His magic dagger was lost when he was killed by a band of adventurers. Eventually the dagger wound up in the town of Kuldahar where it was reforged so that it could be used as a Two handed sword.

STATISTICS

Combat Abilities:
25% chance of each hit confusing an opponent for three rounds (save vs. spells to negate effect)
THAC0: +3 bonus
Damage: 1D10 +3, +1 cold damage
Damage type: slashing
Weight: 10
Speed Factor: 7
Proficiency Type: Two handed sword
Type: 2-handed
Requires: 13 Strength
Not Usable By: Druid, Cleric, Mage, Thief


I think there's also a wakazashi he sells that can only be used by monks.

Deidra (Adventurer's Mart) sells some items that many consider unbalanced. Baldur's Shield and Vaihlor's Helm come to mind. Many of her items were inspired by Planescape:Torment. Here's some of her items for you to consider:

Shield of Balduran +3
This shield was worn by the hero Balduran. It is part of a set of weapons and armor that was stolen from the museum in the city of Baldur's Gate.

STATISTICS:

Equipped Abilities:
Reflects beholder rays
-1 Penalty to Strength
Armor Class Bonus: 4
Weight: 5
Requires: 12 Strength
Not Usable By: Bard, Druid, Mage, Thief

Dak'kon's Zerth Blade +2
This sword was the weapon of choice of the famous githzerai Dak'kon. Dak'kon was killed by a powerful entity while working for a creature known as the 'Nameless One'.

STATISTICS:

Equipped Abilities:
+1 AC bonus
able to memorize one extra 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th level mage spell

THAC0: +2 bonus
Damage: 1D10 +2
Damage type: slashing
Weight: 4
Speed Factor: 2
Proficiency Type: Katana
Type: 1-handed
Requires: 6 Strength
Not Usable By: Druid, Cleric, Mage

Vhailor's Helm
This helmet was worn by a mysterious warrior named Vhailor. The warrior was destroyed while helping a creature known as the 'Nameless one'.

STATISTICS:

Special Abilities (once per day): cast simulacrum
Armor Class Bonus: 1
Weight: 2
Not Usable By: Mage, Bard, Thief

Robe of Vecna
This robe doesn't even have close to the power that the two famous artifacts, the Hand and Eye of Vecna possess. Still, from simply being worn by the powerful lich, the robe absorbed enough magical energies to become a potent magic item.

STATISTICS:

Equipped Abilities:
AC: base set to 5
Improves casting speed by 4
+10% Magic Resistance
Weight: 3
Only usable by:
Mage (single, dual, & multi-class)

Plate of Balduran
This plate was worn by the famous hero Balduran. It is part of a set of weapons and armor that was stolen from the museum in the city of Baldur's Gate.

STATISTICS:

Equipped Abilities:
+4 hit points
+1 Charisma bonus
Armor Class: -1
Weight: 50
Requires: 15 Strength
Not Usable By: Bard, Druid, Mage, Thief


Hope this helps you decide. Use the Search function to find old threads discussing tactics using the helm and shield.