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Spell resistance question

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 11:37 pm
by Jllyahoth
I have the Many-Starred Cloak equipped which gives 10 to fire resist, as well as a ring of resistance(?) which gives 15 to fire resist. Whenever I am damaged by fire, only 15 damage is negated. Do resistences not stack, or is one of these items bugged, or am I just dumb, or what? Thanks in advance.

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 8:12 am
by Xandax
It is my experience that resistances on items dosen't stack.
If carrying multiple resistance items, it usually goes with the highest one.

They do however stack with the feats that grant you resistance protection as far as I've tested. Because I've seen times when the damage is decreased twice in a row.

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 8:22 am
by Aranan
First of all, what you're talking about isn't really spell resistance. SR is the ability to negate spells that are cast on you. Energy resistance is like damage reduction for a particular type of energy.

And no, they do not stack.

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 9:20 am
by Jllyahoth
Ok, thanks guys. Yeah, I meant the damage reduction thing. I guess I was thrown off by the name of the ring.

So actual spell resistance does stack?

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 9:33 am
by Xandax
Originally posted by Jllyahoth
Ok, thanks guys. Yeah, I meant the damage reduction thing. I guess I was thrown off by the name of the ring.

So actual spell resistance does stack?


Nope - only the highest SR item is in effect.

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 11:49 am
by Darthel
related question

You mentioned the difference between Spell Resistance and Damage Reduction; do the DRs stack for multiple items?

Ring of Elemental Resistance (DRed 15/cold)
Amulet of the Master (DRed 30/cold)

IIRC, these items were in use when I fought the master of the globe and never once got a chill. Am I remembering correctly?

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 12:00 pm
by Xandax
Re: related question
Originally posted by Darthel
You mentioned the difference between Spell Resistance and Damage Reduction; do the DRs stack for multiple items?

Ring of Elemental Resistance (DRed 15/cold)
Amulet of the Master (DRed 30/cold)

IIRC, these items were in use when I fought the master of the globe and never once got a chill. Am I remembering correctly?
That was what I answered in my first post (in answering to the thread starter).

I don't think these stack either, but I'm not quite sure.

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 6:42 pm
by shift244
energy resistance/damage reduction can be basically viewed as the same thing. they both reduce the total damage received by its owner. they do not stack. see them as producing a single "sieve" that negates some dmg. placing a finer layer behind a course one will do as mucc good as just using the finer one..

Spell resistance is more like "armor class against spells" where the "to hit" used against it is the spellcaster's level and what ever feats and spells he has/is using. so, SP do not stack either, just as AC[deflect] does not stack upon another AC[deflect]

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 12:39 am
by Xandax
Originally posted by shift244
energy resistance/damage reduction can be basically viewed as the same thing. they both reduce the total damage received by its owner. they do not stack. see them as producing a single "sieve" that negates some dmg. placing a finer layer behind a course one will do as mucc good as just using the finer one..
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Well - I'm pretty sure they do stack with the resistance you can gain from feats - because I took some in my last run. Although I'm unsure to if the resistance you can gain from normal feats stack with the Epic ones, because I saw some strange resists after my character got epic.
(The epic feats should stack with each other according to the info, from the feats)

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 12:45 am
by shift244
i'm not sure about that, with feats n all. what i posted was for items on items....

would a barbarian's damage reduction stack with say, a belt of archery?? maybe feats and items do stack, i'm not sure, will have to check the actual rules to know if it is supposed to but it does in NWN?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 5:14 am
by Aranan
Going by the PNP rules (I know this isn't too much of a help, but it's what I'm familiar with), DR doesn't stack. You always take the best one in any given sitiuation. So, if someone attacked the barbarian with a piercing weapon, he'd use the belt of archery's DR. If they attacked with another kind of weapon, he'd use his barbarian DR.