dwarves begone...

HiRo11er · Post by **HiRo11er** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:18 am

So whatever happened to those **** dwarves? I've asked people all over the map, but noone seems to know. At one point I found a book I thought solved the mystery, but alas I was wrong.

So has anybody succeeded? Where do I go? Who do I talk to?

Any help is appreciated...

thousandfrac · Post by **thousandfrac** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 2:03 am

they blew themselves up, or something

they kinda tried to make themselves gods, using the heart of lorkhan etc

it is possible to find out and complete that quest about the mystery that Trebonius gives you
you need a bunch of large dwarf books and the help of a few wise folk

UncleScratchy · Post by **UncleScratchy** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:28 am

Originally posted by HiRo11er
So whatever happened to those **** dwarves? I've asked people all over the map, but noone seems to know. At one point I found a book I thought solved the mystery, but alas I was wrong.

So has anybody succeeded? Where do I go? Who do I talk to?

Any help is appreciated...

The dwemer magician Kragenac found the heart of the god Lorkan buried in the ground and made special tools with which he could tap into its powers. During the battle of Red Mountain when General Neravar of the Chimer fought the Dwemer, Kragenac used these tools (they turn out to be Sunder and Keening) to strike the heart and the dwemer all disappeared. Some believe the dwemer were destroyed by Kragenac's tampering with the heart but others think they became immortal and went to another plane/planet.

There are lots of books and notes in the game you can read up on the lore and theories and piece things together. One is the note by Lord Vivic to the Dissident Priests that descibes the Battle of Red Mountain (get an advanced copy of it by breaking into the secret library or wait until Lord Vivic gives you a copy). Then there are the three dwemer books - Hanging Garden, Divine Metaphysics and well I forget the last ones name, but you can take them to Beladas and he can translate the two dwemer books using the third book as a translation key. He will also tell you what he thinks happened to the dwarfs. There are other books that tell the story of how Lorkan was killed for creating humans and his body became the "earth" which is why his heart is buried in it. In MW planes and planets and the old gods are all manifestations of the same thing. But to answer Trebonius' quest the three books and Beladas are the key.

thousandfrac · Post by **thousandfrac** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:31 am

is it The Egg Of Time thats the 3rd book?
something like that
and hanging gardens is the translation key, i think reading it gives you a journal entry mentioning its worth

arno_v · Post by **arno_v** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:11 am

But there is one drarf that survived, the old man in
Tel Fyr, in the coprusariom (or wathever).
But I hate the man who is giving you that assingment to find out what happent to them, he is just making fun out of you.

UncleScratchy · Post by **UncleScratchy** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:06 am

Originally posted by arno_v
But there is one drarf that survived, the old man in
Tel Fyr, in the coprusariom (or wathever).
But I hate the man who is giving you that assingment to find out what happent to them, he is just making fun out of you.

Trebonius is not just making fun of you. Its a legitimate quest with a solution. Once you've taken the three books (Devine Metaphysics, Egg of Time and Hanging Gardens) to Beladas (in Gnisis) he will tell you his conclusion. Now go back to Trebonius and he accepts your report to close the quest. Asking the last dwarf in Tel Fyr will not suffice to complete Treboniius' quest.

Edit: Besides Trebonius there is another similar quest if you have joined House Telvanni. I believe you get it from one of the councilor's representatives in Sadrith Mora. You will be asked to find Beladas and ask him 3 questions - at least one of those questions is about the disappearance of the dwarfs.

arno_v · Post by **arno_v** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:16 am

I never thought that quist was to habe a normal ending. thanks for telling me, no i'll try to solve it.
But bout me hatting trebonius, that guy in the Hlaalu Quarter in Vicec Curio or something, he is a real perv. I had to kiss him to make me Hortator :s, and im a guy, frickin gay.

HiRo11er · Post by **HiRo11er** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:24 pm

All right guys, I appreciate the response...

I remember an earlier game I played, and I asked Beladas (sp?) the questions about the Dwarves. Actually most of what has been said in this thread are things that I vaguely remember npc's talking about in the game. I guess I was a book or two away from solving the quest...

By the way, the three books that you have to find for the telvanni guy in Gnisis aren't the three books you need for the dwarf-quest, are they? I might be getting my quests mixed up here (it's been a while since I played!), but I seem to remember him being important...

I'll get to the bottom of matters this time around!

Dark Master · Post by **Dark Master** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 2:58 pm

No, the books are different.

hwesta_elf · Post by **hwesta_elf** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 5:06 pm

I have (had) the same question but i just did like everyone told me to do: ignore Trebonious...
you don't need to do the stupid quest to become arch-mage... even if i did finish the quest I already killed Trebonious for the title of arch-mage...
I don't know if this helps but there is this dude in the city of... wait, i forgot... ummm... sorry but there is this guy in an underground hole who is sort of a loner magician, he tells u about he dwarves dissapearance...
I'll post when i remember...
(is it worth doing the quest? i mean, u should be well rewarded...)

thousandfrac · Post by **thousandfrac** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 5:36 pm

Baladas in Gnisis you mean? the ex telvanni councillor

you do get a reward from trebonius, but i cant remember what it is. or if you get it off him anyway if you just kill him in the duel.
but you do get a reputation point, which is worth it

also his next mission, is to kill all the Telvanni counsel members... thats not really worth doing

UncleScratchy · Post by **UncleScratchy** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 8:17 pm

Originally posted by thousandfrac
Baladas in Gnisis you mean? the ex telvanni councillor

you do get a reward from trebonius, but i cant remember what it is. or if you get it off him anyway if you just kill him in the duel.
but you do get a reputation point, which is worth it

also his next mission, is to kill all the Telvanni counsel members... thats not really worth doing

Trebonius doesn't give you any reward that I know of for completing the Disappearance of the Dwarfs quest. I like the final quest he gives you. Besides his ring isn't that good so I like to spare the poor guy.

thousandfrac · Post by **thousandfrac** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 5:14 am

i'm too nice to kill the telvanni... heh

maybe he doesnt give you a reward for it then, my mistake. but you do get the rep point i'm sure

RebelousDarkElf · Post by **RebelousDarkElf** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 9:42 am

Put SPOILER, jerks

hwesta_elf · Post by **hwesta_elf** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 6:25 pm

*tear*

Originally posted by RebelousDarkElf
Put SPOILER, jerks

*sniff* i'm a "jerk"
I hurt... how do u do that thingy the moderator told us to do? i mean colour the words? I tried but a little window told me to type the stuff in, i had already typed it so i copied it but it wouldn't paste

anyway, i think i'm going to crawl into a corner and cry. *sob* I'M A JERK! *sniff* (i'm not being sarcastic for your information) *tear* i'm very sensitive you know... to insults...

thousandfrac · Post by **thousandfrac** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:53 am

Re: *tear*

Originally posted by hwesta_elf
*sniff* i'm a "jerk"
I hurt... how do u do that thingy the moderator told us to do? i mean colour the words? I tried but a little window told me to type the stuff in, i had already typed it so i copied it but it wouldn't paste
anyway, i think i'm going to crawl into a corner and cry. *sob* I'M A JERK! *sniff* (i'm not being sarcastic for your information) *tear* i'm very sensitive you know... to insults...

i find its easier to type the code itself usually.
type [color*=black] spoiler [/color*]
without the *s

Dark Master · Post by **Dark Master** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 12:17 pm

2 rep points.

hwesta_elf · Post by **hwesta_elf** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 5:07 pm

Re: Re: *tear*

Originally posted by thousandfrac
i find its easier to type the code itself usually.
type [color*=black] spoiler [/color*]
without the *s

okay, i shall try to do that next time so i'm not a "jerk"...
thank you!

hwesta_elf · Post by **hwesta_elf** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 5:08 pm

do you see anything?

sorry for wasting you guys' time but below, is it black or did i mess it up?

:... If you can read this I am very happy...=) ...:

thousandfrac · Post by **thousandfrac** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 5:12 pm

Re: do you see anything?

Originally posted by hwesta_elf
sorry for wasting you guys' time but below, is it black or did i mess it up?

:... If you can read this I am very happy...=) ...:

worked for me