what's your favorite summon

TheDude · Post by **TheDude** » Wed May 05, 2004 9:47 am

every one has his favorite pet and whats yours?
for my: Skeleton Warriors al the way!!

just 2 or 3 hasted/prot. from evil skeletons kicked the s@#t out of shangalar in the twisted rune even kangaxx fellt quickly
i like elementals but the skeletons are great because they stay a lot longer.

Numinor · Post by **Numinor** » Wed May 05, 2004 10:03 am

Excluding ToB summons I'd say Mordenkainen's Swords: immune to almost everything except pure magic damage, and a bunch of those buffed up with haste etc. make short work of almost everything.
And I like their sound

A cheesy bug with Mordenkainen's Sword is(was) that you could cast them without breaking invisibility in an earlier version

Kaitsuburi · Post by **Kaitsuburi** » Wed May 05, 2004 10:26 am

Invisible hasted skellies are the bomb

-kaitsuburi

nephtu · Post by **nephtu** » Wed May 05, 2004 2:10 pm

Well...

Skels are a great working summons: cheap, magic resistant, immune to mind control, and last forever, so you can summon hordes with a bit of PI cheese.

Mord swords are the mid level fighting summons - immune to all but magical damage, great against melee-type opponents.

Planetars, well, they're just insanely good. And death spell doesn't work on them.

TheDude · Post by **TheDude** » Wed May 05, 2004 2:27 pm

ok mord swords are nice but the magic protection of the skellies are far much better.
are there any other summons that wont die from a death spell in SoA??
and do they get immium for it when u get higher lvl nice they get better when u lvl up??
is there btw a max to them or is there max ad skeleton warrior??

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Wed May 05, 2004 4:43 pm

Originally posted by Kaitsuburi
Invisible hasted skellies are the bomb

-kaitsuburi

better than swords...

dude, all summons except demons is SOA can be deathspelled...

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Wed May 05, 2004 4:53 pm

Originally posted by TheDude
ok mord swords are nice but the magic protection of the skellies are far much better.
are there any other summons that wont die from a death spell in SoA??
and do they get immium for it when u get higher lvl nice they get better when u lvl up??
is there btw a max to them or is there max ad skeleton warrior??

skellies are almost 100% immune to magic...they can wade thru incindiarty clouds...toss in a stinky cloud into a room, close door for a while, and send in skellys..immune to charm, sleep, stun,,,

all summons in soa, except demons, can be killed instantly by deathspell or death fog...it is NOT possible to make them immune to deathspell/fog

skeleton warriors are the limit for animate dead spell. that's all you get, no higher level skellys...

Numinor · Post by **Numinor** » Wed May 05, 2004 5:05 pm

Originally posted by UserUnfriendly
better than swords...

I still like the sword's sound better

BTW, Skeleton Warriors have 90% magic resistance.

nephtu · Post by **nephtu** » Wed May 05, 2004 5:28 pm

Well...

Skels aren't better than swords, they're different. The sword's immunity to weapon damage makes them VERY effective against anything that's melee centric.

Don't get me wrong, I love my skel warrior summons - they just have limitations.

Improved mages dissolve both with death spells though

Kaitsuburi · Post by **Kaitsuburi** » Wed May 05, 2004 5:38 pm

Re: Well...

Originally posted by nephtu
Improved mages dissolve both with death spells though

This is where Jaheira's Insect Plague comes handy

Or a superfast archer

Mages not casting Death Spell makes it too easy you'd agree...

-kaitsuburi

TheDude · Post by **TheDude** » Wed May 05, 2004 6:14 pm

ok so swords cant be beating by melee goens but they don't stick around very long
fireballs and horrid wilting do dammage the swords don't they??
and skels are immune to there magic
but most of all skells look a lot more cooler!!

i like ettercaps to if we're talking about coolnis

no serieusly ther poison attack is very usefull

Numinor · Post by **Numinor** » Wed May 05, 2004 7:02 pm

Originally posted by TheDude
ok so swords cant be beating by melee goens but they don't stick around very long
fireballs and horrid wilting do dammage the swords don't they??

horrid wilting - yes, fireballs - no

Swords are completely immune to everything except pure magic damage (Horrid Wilting, Magic Missiles, the magic damage from Keldorn's Hallowed Redeemer... anything else ? )

Kaitsuburi · Post by **Kaitsuburi** » Thu May 06, 2004 12:25 am

Do planetars count as summons

Vorpal swords, spellcasting and such, they are not the most resistant, but are very powerful allies to have by your side!

Please remind me (I can't remember): Death Spell doesn't work on them (or did it)? They are extra-planar creatures, right?

-kaitsuburi

kopywrite · Post by **kopywrite** » Thu May 06, 2004 1:11 am

Originally posted by Numinor
horrid wilting - yes, fireballs - no

Swords are completely immune to everything except pure magic damage (Horrid Wilting, Magic Missiles, the magic damage from Keldorn's Hallowed Redeemer... anything else ? )

Skull trap. Can be a bit tricky casting it at them as its fairly easy to miss...minor sequencer with two lots of magic missiles does the job. Or death spell of course. Running away from them is pretty effective too as they don't stay around for very long.

kopywrite · Post by **kopywrite** » Thu May 06, 2004 1:14 am

Originally posted by Kaitsuburi
Do planetars count as summons

Vorpal swords, spellcasting and such, they are not the most resistant, but are very powerful allies to have by your side!

Please remind me (I can't remember): Death Spell doesn't work on them (or did it)?

They're gated so are therefore immune to death spell, like demons. Quite what the difference between gated and summoned is I'm not sure...can't be to do with being extra-planar as efreet, elementals etc are all wiped out by death spell too.

kopywrite · Post by **kopywrite** » Thu May 06, 2004 1:21 am

Re: Re: Well...

Originally posted by Kaitsuburi
This is where Jaheira's Insect Plague comes handy Or a superfast archer

Except the game quite often cheats and mages, liches (epecially liches) like to throw a scripted death spell as soon as they see a summons. But that's were the wild dog from monster summoning I comes in handy. Sorry pooch.

Can I make a case for improved Kitthix as a top summons...mirror imaged, hasted, regenerating makes him very hard to kill. The description is hilarious too...

And of course the nymph from call woodland beings is great too (for low level groups).

lompo · Post by **lompo** » Thu May 06, 2004 2:02 am

Skelleton warriors and Mordys are great, but I agree that imp. Kittix is a very powerfull ally, and with some P.I./Simulacrum cheese you can summon several imp. Kittix at the same time.
The druid fire elemental is also a great summon, and don't forget the elemental princes that are awesome (and are immune to death spell too).

Kaitsuburi · Post by **Kaitsuburi** » Thu May 06, 2004 2:17 am

Re: Re: Re: Well...

Originally posted by kopywrite
But that's were the wild dog from monster summoning I comes in handy. Sorry pooch.

Yes, distracting the lichie

A wand of summoning is quite a nice thing to have (and keep recharching for free with your thief). The monsters are respectable (not the wild dog

) but are pure fodder to annoying enemies and their death spells. Poor power-blinded lich wasting her imprisonments on a ogre berserker or a gnoll elite LOL

-kaitsuburi

TheDude · Post by **TheDude** » Thu May 06, 2004 4:17 am

how can u recharch the want with your thief??
is that possible in Soa or do u need tob for that??

Numinor · Post by **Numinor** » Thu May 06, 2004 5:00 am

You don't actually "recharge" them

You sell them to a merchant (preferably one who buys stolen items, Roger the Fence and the Merchant in the Shadow Thieves headquarters for example) and then steal them back
- you could buy them back, too, but that get's a little bit expensive

.
That will recharge any item with limited charges to it's maximum.