Will all chaotic evil enemies please raise their hand?

MordorMan · Post by **MordorMan** » Wed Apr 11, 2001 2:01 pm

As a two handed sword user, I would like to know if there are types or classes of enemies that are chaotic evil, so that I can take out my Flame of the North for them. Its effectiveness is max against chaotic evil.

MM

[ 04-11-2001: Message edited by: MordorMan ]

BALDUR · Post by **BALDUR** » Wed Apr 11, 2001 2:23 pm

I believe dragons are chaotic evil, so are mind flayers, just to mention a few.

rapier · Post by **rapier** » Wed Apr 11, 2001 2:24 pm

Vampires, almost all kinds of undead...umm, Umber hulks(?), drow...

MordorMan · Post by **MordorMan** » Wed Apr 11, 2001 2:39 pm

Well well well, dragons, mind flayers, vampires, undead, drow ... this opens possibilities indeed. I'll let them all taste cold northern steel

ThorinOakensfield · Post by **ThorinOakensfield** » Wed Apr 11, 2001 5:13 pm

All creatures of the underdark, undead, creatures of the lower planes and goblinoid creatures. Umber Hulks are probably TN like most animals.

sigurd · Post by **sigurd** » Thu Apr 12, 2001 12:22 am

Just curious, the Silver dragon must be chaotic good, right? and the green i dont know.. neutral?

rapier · Post by **rapier** » Thu Apr 12, 2001 1:38 am

Chromatic dragons are generally evil(LE, CE, NE), metallic dragons generally good(CG, NG, LG), the silver dragon is LG, Red dragon CE, Black CE...

Edit: I looked, Umber Hulks are indeed always Chaotic Evil...

[ 04-12-2001: Message edited by: rapier ]

Loredweller · Post by **Loredweller** » Thu Apr 12, 2001 4:09 am

Originally posted by sigurd:
Just curious, the Silver dragon must be chaotic good, right? and the green i dont know.. neutral?

The Silver Dragon is Lawful Good, BTW.

There is my collection of Chaotic Evil entities in the game:

Tanar'ri, Werewolf and Wolfwere (all Lycanthropes, it seems), Duergar, spme Thug,
of Ogres (not all Ogres!) - Ogre Mercenary, Ogre Chak, Ogre Boz, Ogrillon, Half Ogre, Orc Mage, Andorian,
Orog, Ettin, Elf Assassin,
Shadow Thief (some, not all, in Ch.6 the might be treated as Chaotic Good),
Haz, Tizzak, Jariel, Hurgis Baltezan (however may be also Lawful Good),
Banshee, Baron Ployer, some of Gibberlings, (Greater) Ghoul, Ghoul Lord, Skeleton (summoned), Umber Hulk,
Stormherald Nallabir, Lennah, Jaylos, Jondal, Drunken Cleric of Talos, Xzar, Mane, Sorcerous Amin, Master of Thralls, Altar, Umar, Shadow Altar, Mugger, Ruffian Captain, some Thug, Fael, Rejiek Hidesman, Vellin Dahn, Tazok, TorGal, Jospil, Servant, Tathlyn, Imrae, The Master Brain, Yochlol,
Bodhi, Tanova, Durst, Gellal, Del, Hareishan, Meredath, Salia, Cohn Ta'glaen, Shyressa, Del, Dace Apparition, Parisa, Ulvaryl and other vampires,
Liches: Lagole Gon, Kangaxx the Demi-Lich, Nevaziah,
Centeol, Valeria, Dracandros, Chaos, Lord Jierdan,
some manifestations of Jon Irenicus, he changes

,
Ghaundaur Priest Leader, Ghaundaur Priest, Relonar, Gallchobhair, Relonar,
some of Drow Torturers, Handmaiden of Lolth, Overseer Handmaiden, (not all Drows, note, there are at least some Neutral, Neutral Evil and Lawful Evil, Taso Kala one of them),
some of Githyanki (also one of two Captains and Anti-Paladin), Simyaz, Riti, Spirit Troll, most of Trolls, Ice Salamander, Salamander, Yuan-Ti, Greater Yuan-Ti, Yuan-Ti mage, Lacedon, Greater Lacedon,
Grae, Cambion, Umberhulk, Balor, Tanar'ri, Glabrezu, Demon, Lesser Demon Lord, Nabassu, Pit Fiend, Rabid Dog, Quasit, Fear, Greed, Pride, Wraith Sarevok, Selfish, Marilith, Minotaur, Shadow (but not shadow wolves), Shadow Fiend, some Mephits, Wights, Wandering Horror, Ghast, Lea'liyl, Mane, Maurezhi, Demon Knight,
of Dragons - Nizidramanii'yt, Red Dragon, Thaxll'ssillyia,
Jaguar, Sword Spider, Giant Spider, Small Spider, Wraith Spider, Skeleton Warrior(rare, mostly Lawful), Diseased Rat, Invisible Stalker, Tasloi Elite Trooper, Tasloi, some Mercenary, Diseased Gibberling, Vampiric Wolf,
Korgan (heh!),
Statue (counted as Shadow), Boalisk,
Arkanis Gath,
Bhaal (Fighter level 15, BTW).

Mind Flayer are Lawful Evil. Beholders aren't Chaotic, some even not Evil. Zombies are true Neutral. Deirex, for example of liches, is Lawful Evil. Rakshasa is Chaotic Neutral

BTW, have you known Thaxll'ssillyia is male cleric of level 23?

May your Protections from Evil never wear out,
L.

rapier · Post by **rapier** » Thu Apr 12, 2001 4:18 am

Hmn, Rakshasa are Lawful Evil!

Rakshasa

Climate/Terrain: Warm forest and marsh
Organization: Solitary
Challenge Rating: 9
Treasure: Standard coins; double goods; standard items
Alignment: Always lawful evil
Advancement: 8-14 HD (Medium-size)

nael · Post by **nael** » Thu Apr 12, 2001 8:20 am

loredweller- wow, quite the list you came up with...i'm impressed

Hazim ibn Gorion · Post by **Hazim ibn Gorion** » Thu Apr 12, 2001 9:26 am

Ditto. One might even say you dwell in lore.

BTW MordorMan, if you're a non-Paladin 2-handed sword wielder, don't pass up Warblade one you get out of the underdark. No flashy bells and whistles, but hella fast and damaging.

Loredweller · Post by **Loredweller** » Thu Apr 12, 2001 10:21 am

Originally posted by rapier:
Hmn, Rakshasa are Lawful Evil!

Rakshasa

Climate/Terrain: Warm forest and marsh
Organization: Solitary
Challenge Rating: 9
Treasure: Standard coins; double goods; standard items
Alignment: Always lawful evil
Advancement: 8-14 HD (Medium-size)

it appear not always D&D rules match ones for BG

but i see what i see. Take care and check. I run into the fact while collecting chaotic evil classes. However i might have lawful evil rakshasa skipped as well.
L.

MordorMan · Post by **MordorMan** » Thu Apr 12, 2001 10:23 am

Hazim, thanks for the tip. I play a half-orc barbarian and haven't come across this one yet. I *have* build up quite a collection of swords already. I think I should hire a halfling caddie to carry my sword bag and give me useful advice on which sword to pick in each situation. His lore rating should ideally be approaching loredwellers'.

MM

Loredweller · Post by **Loredweller** » Thu Apr 12, 2001 10:27 am

Originally posted by nael:
loredweller- wow, quite the list you came up with...i'm impressed

thanks to Infinity Explorer

Thank you, nonetheless,
L.

Sojourner · Post by **Sojourner** » Thu Apr 12, 2001 2:01 pm

Originally posted by Hazim ibn Gorion:
BTW MordorMan, if you're a non-Paladin 2-handed sword wielder, don't pass up Warblade one you get out of the underdark. No flashy bells and whistles, but hella fast and damaging.

If you're a neutral or evil 2-handed sword wielder, the Soul Reaver +4 you find in the Underdark is also quite a nice sword.

rapier · Post by **rapier** » Thu Apr 12, 2001 2:20 pm

Originally posted by Loredweller:
it appear not always D&D rules match ones for BG but i see what i see. Take care and check. I run into the fact while collecting chaotic evil classes. However i might have lawful evil rakshasa skipped as well.
L.

Hmn, but come to think about it, in the manual is written something like "race of EVIL spirits[...]", and chaotic neutral doesn't really fit on Rakshasa IMO...

ThorinOakensfield · Post by **ThorinOakensfield** » Thu Apr 12, 2001 4:12 pm

I forgot about the silver dragon, but what i meant was the creatures that only live in the underdark. Illithid, drow, duergar, kuo toa, minotaurs, ettins, ogres, goblins.