Bugz

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Sun May 27, 2001 7:26 am

post up your bugz
Halfling has -1 to wisdom

fable · Post by **fable** » Sun May 27, 2001 8:49 am

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Sun May 27, 2001 9:07 am

So peple are aware and It helps Kevin dorner!

Kevin Dorner · Post by **Kevin Dorner** » Sun May 27, 2001 11:13 am

Originally posted by craig:
post up your bugz
Halfling has -1 to wisdom

This does seem like a bug. Also Dwarves are taking a hit to their Dexterity (max 17) and a double hit to their Charisma (max 16.) From 2nd Ed. Halflings +1 DEX, -1 STR, and Dwarves +1 CON, -1 CHR. Thanks...I will fix this.

[ 05-27-2001: Message edited by: Kevin Dorner ]

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Sun May 27, 2001 11:17 am

See this is useful!!!!

White Rabbit · Post by **White Rabbit** » Sun May 27, 2001 11:21 am

KEVIN RULES!!!!!

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Sun May 27, 2001 11:22 am

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Kevin Dorner · Post by **Kevin Dorner** » Sun May 27, 2001 11:53 am

I wouldn't mind having a copy of T.O.B. ahead of the rest of the world, if only to see what's been changed. But, it doesn't seem like it's going to happen. I'll eat my hex editor if there's no official patch for T.O.B. and I imagine they will include all the fixes in there.

BTW the three bugs with racial stats. are fixed and written up for inclusion in FixPack 3.5. I was debating whether there will ever be one, but I think there will be. So keep the bugs coming.

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Sun May 27, 2001 12:45 pm

Go for the game

Amphibius · Post by **Amphibius** » Sun May 27, 2001 4:46 pm

Dunno if this is something that can be fixed or not but I posted a topic about kicking Haerdalis out of your party in the middle of Railis Shai's summoning ritual which could cost you your game.

Also, some minor observations... You can place some non-scroll stuff in a scroll case... the Umar Witch Project books, the Pages of the Tome of Amaunator...

And for people who installed the bottomless bag of holding patch... too much stuff inside causes the game to be jerky (at least in my case). I played a solo Archer and used Shadowkeeper to give myself a bag of holding from the start (I want to hoard stuff) and placed everything I could get my hands on in the bag (never sold anything at all)...

Kevin Dorner · Post by **Kevin Dorner** » Mon May 28, 2001 5:08 pm

Craig: Hmmmmm....checked the Player's Handbook and it appears that the ability scores are correct! It's the descriptions that are incorrect as they fail to mention the maximums but do mention the adjustments. System doesn't adapt well to a CRPG where you can't see the adjustments of +1 and -1 being applied to the die rolls after they are rolled. Something is wrong and I'm now not sure what it is.

I'll let you know whan I've checked, but something is strange with the whole system.

Amphibius: I'll have a look at that Haer'Dalis thing. I've heard of people getting stuck there; wonder if they had done the same thing.

When you emptied the Bag Of HOlding or got rid of it, did the game immediately improve?

Also, the Scroll Cases hold anything papery and wordy.

[ 05-28-2001: Message edited by: Kevin Dorner ]

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Mon May 28, 2001 5:13 pm

Yuo mean it's MENT to be like that?

Amphibius · Post by **Amphibius** » Mon May 28, 2001 5:36 pm

Originally posted by Kevin Dorner:
Amphibius: I'll have a look at that Haer'Dalis thing. I've heard of people getting stuck there; wonder if they had done the same thing.

Thanks!

When you emptied the Bag Of HOlding or got rid of it, did the game immediately improve?

Yep! Sold all the gems and trinkets, normal weapons and armor, left everything I didn't need in some chest somewhere and the game stopped jerking.

Also, the Scroll Cases hold anything papery and wordy.

Really?! That's something I didn't know! Then shouldn't it also hold other books and stuff? Not sure if it does now... guess I should check! Not that it's really that important!

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Lorenoth · Post by **Lorenoth** » Mon May 28, 2001 6:05 pm

will your latest patch include all of the older fixes, kevin?

Kevin Dorner · Post by **Kevin Dorner** » Mon May 28, 2001 6:45 pm

So quoth craig:
Yuo mean it's MENT to be like that?

I think so, it's just not very well explained in the racial descriptions. They only describe the PnP after-creation penalties/bonuses, which BG2 appears to apply as soon as you roll. It's rather convoluted. There should just be one number for your racial max. and min. in any stat., but it's not done that way.

So quoth Lorenoth:
will your latest patch include all of the older fixes, kevin?

Yes, they are always incremental, so the newest one includes all the older fixes plus the new ones.

Amphibius: I think I am going to pull the Bottomless Bag. Someone said it was crashing their system, and I advised them if I had any more problems with it I would yank it. Thanks for the info. I'll have to write Gebhard Blucher and advise him it's causing problems.

[ 05-28-2001: Message edited by: Kevin Dorner ]

Sabre · Post by **Sabre** » Mon May 28, 2001 9:51 pm

Also, the Scroll Cases hold anything papery and wordy.

The ransom letter that you get concerning the silver panthaloon can't be place in the Scroll Case, bug?

RA · Post by RA » Mon May 28, 2001 10:18 pm

I found another bug, my familiar stays in the dream.
If I release my familiar afther a dream sequence I am transported to that room and my familiar is ther.
TherforeI can´t enter any building because the computer keeps saying tou must gather your party.......

aVENGER2k · Post by **aVENGER2k** » Tue May 29, 2001 1:01 am

Here are a couple of bugs that *I think* no one listed before...

1) Glasses of Id. + Bag of Holding - when you stash the glasses in the bag they are SET to one charge,even if they were totaly drained or "full (3 charges)" before.

2) With a good thief,you can pickpocket the HEAD

right of that Rakshasa (Ihtafeer) while it's still in human form!!!

3) Ring of Regeneration + Full Plate Mail +2 bug - the ring does not work on a character that's wearing this armor (created by a Limited Wish spell).

BTW,Kevin man you've done a great job fixing all that stuff,I hope Bioware offers you a job

because that would certainly save us (and them) a LOT of trouble in the future.

Kevin Dorner · Post by **Kevin Dorner** » Tue May 29, 2001 12:33 pm

So quoth aVENGER2k:
1) Glasses of Id. + Bag of Holding - when you stash the glasses in the bag they are SET to one charge,even if they were totaly drained or "full (3 charges)" before.

Yes, this is in my buglist. This is a HUGE exploit bug that the player may be innocent of as...well, what better place to stash daily ability items until they become useful again than the Bag Of Holding or Gem Bag (for Rings and things with charges.) I took the time to mail BioWare about this so that they were sure to know about it for T.O.B. resolution.

Basically the cause of it is this: the bags are a hack, they are a .STO store file that are referred to by an item that you carry with you. What happens when you sell an item to a store and buy it back? It gets charged. So, game sees an item with a drained ability go into a .STO file. Game charges up the item. Player takes item out..."hey, it's charged. Was that a day already?" Plasyer discharges item and puts back into bag. Item is immediately recharged. Repeat ad infinitum. You can charge any item with a time-restored ability by throwing it in the Bag Of Holding or Gem Bag, such as: the Spell Trap of the Staff Of The Magi or Daystar's Sunray or the Ring Of The Ram.

2) With a good thief,you can pickpocket the HEAD right of that Rakshasa (Ihtafeer) while it's still in human form!!!

Thanks...I will definitely fix that when I can. You also reminded me that others have mentioned this with Adalon's blood as well. I'll have a look at this tonight.

3) Ring of Regeneration + Full Plate Mail +2 bug - the ring does not work on a character that's wearing this armor (created by a Limited Wish spell).

I heard about this but was unable to recreate it. It worked just fine for me. I wonder what it could be. Anyways the Limited Wish armour had two unstated penalties to THAC0 and Movement Rate that I removed. Try the fixed one and see if they were causing this too.

BTW,Kevin man you've done a great job fixing all that stuff,I hope Bioware offers you a job because that would certainly save us (and them) a LOT of trouble in the future.

When I finish up all this stuff, I think I will send a resume....maybe.

Thanks for the appreciation.

So quoth Sabre:
The ransom letter that you get concerning the silver panthaloon can't be place in the Scroll Case, bug?

It makes a "clunk" sound like wood when you move it...I think it is supposed to be a scroll that is wrapped around a wooden dowel as they used to use, so it won't lie flat. But perhaps I am reading too much into a bug.

So quoth RA:
I found another bug, my familiar stays in the dream. If I release my familiar afther a dream sequence I am transported to that room and my familiar is ther. TherforeI can´t enter any building because the computer keeps saying tou must gather your party.......

Have you not installed the [url="http://www.bioware.com/bgate2/bg2patch.shtml"]official BioWare patch[/url]? This is one of the bugs that was fixed by it.

[ 05-29-2001: Message edited by: Kevin Dorner ]

cheesemage · Post by **cheesemage** » Tue May 29, 2001 3:15 pm

this really isnt a bug but, if you use spell strike on the demon knight in ireincus's dungeon the protection isnt removed,

i was just experimenting