The Fall - Last days of Gaia

Stilgar · Post by **Stilgar** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 2:59 pm

Here is a link to the main site.
Anyone checked this game out? It looks like an unofficial Fallout 3.
And i read some great revieuws about the game.

The only weird thing is that it should come out this month, but i havent found a gamestore where they know anything about this game.
And it's a german game (if i'm not mistaken) so it should be weird if it only launches outside Europe.

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 4:58 pm

Actually, there's already a thread on the Fall here. I'll leave for a day or so to gather some attention, and then merge the two threads together.

Stilgar · Post by **Stilgar** » Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:36 am

Didnt find that thread, i made a search on Gaia.
Feel free to merge them.

Monolith · Post by **Monolith** » Wed Nov 17, 2004 1:47 pm

The Fall will be officially released in German-Speaking countries on November the 19th. I don't know anything about a realease-date in other countries.

Although the release date is the 19th, many Germans already have the game ( it can be already in bought in some German stores; and those who ordered it at amazon should have gotten it today).

I surfed through the German Support Forum and well, it doesn't look that good. Many have hardware-related problems with the game - it's running very slowly or it isn't running at all. Especially people with an ATI Radeon 9700 graphic-card can't play the game properly. Silver Style Entertainment already released a patch which adds new content ( party-based inventory; more detailed map) and which fixes some performance problems. But the problems with the 9700 ATI card aren't fixed yet - SSE is working on it.

Well, I'm going to wait until friday. If new patches are released until then and if the game runs properly then I'll perhaps buy it. If more problems occur and if the game turns out to be crappy...well, then I'll probably won't buy it. Perhaps I'll wait for some reviews to come.

BTW, the official forum doesn't work right now. The guys also have some problems with the database or something...

And yeah, I AM somehow disappointed.

arno_v · Post by **arno_v** » Wed Nov 17, 2004 3:23 pm

I'm surprised to hear of such problems. I expected that this game would have been tested enough. I hope for them the patches will work well, else there are in big trouble I guess.

Stilgar · Post by **Stilgar** » Wed Nov 17, 2004 3:58 pm

I heared the Enlish release will be in Jan/Feb 2005, let's hope they have fixed all the bugs then.
I still think this game looks promissing.

Monolith · Post by **Monolith** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:39 am

Well, I bought it today. **** the reviews

. I read some opinions at the official forums and those who can play it without problems say that it is great. I haven't played it yet, I'm downloading the update right now...

Monolith · Post by **Monolith** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:27 pm

I'm not a lucky guy...I could install it, I can start it...but I can't read ANYTHING, because all I see are graphic-bugs or...nothing. The problem is known...but...damn...

arno_v · Post by **arno_v** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:34 pm

[QUOTE=Stilgar]I heared the Enlish release will be in Jan/Feb 2005, let's hope they have fixed all the bugs then.
I still think this game looks promissing.[/QUOTE]

You're right, but I think it's stupid to let us wait so long. Why didn't they made a English version in the first place? Do they really thing it will be bought more in German speaking countrys because it's in German. I don't mind if a game is not in my native language but in English.

Monolith · Post by **Monolith** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:52 pm

[QUOTE=arno_v]You're right, but I think it's stupid to let us wait so long. Why didn't they made a English version in the first place? Do they really thing it will be bought more in German speaking countrys because it's in German. I don't mind if a game is not in my native language but in English.[/QUOTE]
They are German developers, it's just natural that they released a German version in the first place. Usually we have to wait for a German version of a game, because most games aren't done by German developers. Now it's just vice versa. So...just go on with complaining

Monolith · Post by **Monolith** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:39 pm

The third patch was already released and I'm installing it right now. The game with version 1.2 was playable. And it's good. But I only played about an hour. Some German game-mags testet it and it got something between 83% to 84%. It's not breathtaking. But like I said, I only played about an hour...

Some critcized that the game's too short. Someone at the official forum said something about 11 hours....

But most of those who played the game said that it's a good game and that everyone who likes RPGs should play it - the story is said to be very good, as well as the character development and the quests. The combat system could be better though...

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:46 pm

[QUOTE=Monolith]<snip>
Some critcized that the game's too short. Someone at the official forum said something about 11 hours....

But most of those who played the game said that it's a good game and that everyone who likes RPGs should play it - the story is said to be very good, as well as the character development and the quests. The combat system could be better though...[/QUOTE]

Well -no matter how much I'm into RPGs, I'll never buy this game if that 11hour statement holds even some validation.
Didn't I read on the website (have to look up) that the campaign was supposed to take 50ish hours? (which is already to little for me in this day and age

- I really *don't* like short games incase people were wondering)

Monolith · Post by **Monolith** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:51 pm

Yep, something like this was said...
And it stunned me as well. I hope it's just false information.

EDIT:
I opened a thread at the official forum. Let's clear this up...

The Great Hairy · Post by **The Great Hairy** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:04 pm

@Monolith
Please keep us (non-German speaking) people updated on the progress. Like Xandax said, 11 hours is just too short for me. 50 hours is okay, but I would prefer longer than that too.

I've had my eye on this game for a little while (spotted it over at Duck & Cover) but I wasn't sure of the (English version) release date. Is it confirmed that it is Jan/Feb 2005?

Cheers all,
TGHO

Monolith · Post by **Monolith** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 2:50 am

[QUOTE=The Great Hairy]@Monolith
Please keep us (non-German speaking) people updated on the progress.[/QUOTE]
No problem.

SSE's support is outstanding. They released another patch yesterday. Version 1.4.

And Carsten Strehse, the leaddesigner, said that *he* needed exactly 31 hours and 23 minutes to reach the end. And he knows every solution. The testers needed about 40 to 50 hours. Those who said that they needed about 12 hours were victims of the buggy in-game time-counter.

The 40 to 50 hours include playing all maps and making most of the sub-quests. That's not very much, but better than 11 or 12 hours...

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 3:29 am

[QUOTE=Monolith]<snip>
The 40 to 50 hours include playing all maps and making most of the sub-quests. That's not very much, but better than 11 or 12 hours...[/QUOTE]

It is also better then SW:KotOR

I think around 50 hours was what the first installment of NwN was set at, but I'm not 100% sure about that ... it is just something I seem to recall

The Great Hairy · Post by **The Great Hairy** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:31 pm

I took around 85 hours to finish SW:KotOR the first time I played, and in subsequent games this usually was around 65-70 hours. <Shrug> I like being thorough.

If the main game takes 40-50 hours, I'm happy with that. I can extend it out to around 75 and be a happy Hairy.

@Monolith
Thanks for the info mate. It certainly looks like a game worth watching! Let us know if there are further developments please. I'll give you a cookie.

Cheers,
TGHO

Monolith · Post by **Monolith** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 3:03 am

A cookie? Well, *then* I have something for you...

Julian Dasgupta ( SSE-Developer):
"The Good, The Bad And The Ugly

Actually, this post does not contain anything about the ugly - sorry, Skaw - and it is meant to be a little status update for zee non-German visitors of this forum.

First of all, the recent lack of information and contribution from our side is a straight result of the game being available in Germany, Austria and Switzerland now and the support being quite demanding in terms of time requirements right now.

Sooo, with the game being out now, what's going on?

German Version:

The bad (I'm one of those "bad things first" guys) - there have been technical issues on some systems. I'll be frank, they shouldn't have been there in the first place. Resulting in an instable gaming experience or performance problems for a number of players. Others again don't seem to run into such issues. (And I personally have been running the game at home - on an untested system - and not once did it crash so far. Certainly wish it was me to have issues instead of someone who bought it in the store. )

The good - the guys are - literally - crunching bugs as we speak. They've done helluva work so far and addressed quite a number of issues within a single week. Naturally, there still are problems to be solved, but we're getting there.

Reviews:

The bad - 83 and 84 out of 100. The scores probably would have been higher without the technical issues,

The good - 83 and 84 out of 100. The scores were good nonetheless. More importantly, the feedback from people who weren't frustrated due to aforementioned issues was mostly positive. Sure, there are people who didn't like it that much, but then again then there's no game that makes it to appeal to every single player. Except Tetris maybe. (And if you don't like Tetris, you're a sick, sick person.) Feedback is welcome either way. Also, the editor and the accessibility of the scripts have been received very well.

Of course, the forum is also laden with gameplay suggestions and requests for future updates and we're taking a close look at them.

English version:

The bad - if you're waiting for news on the English release of the game, don't expect an announcement tomorrow. Or on the next day. There still are things to be sorted out, details to be debated. Etc. Etc. Etc. And keep in mind we right now have to focus on the German version the game. Seriously, there's no release date that's being kept secret or something like that.

I'm fully aware that you guys are growing impatient, but at this point there simply isn't anything to be announced. Take note though that there will be an English version. If you're running across someone who claims the opposite, you should rather ask him/her to share a bit of whatever he/she is smoking.

The good - ok, I guess there isn't anything you'd consider good about the situation, but hey."

The Great Hairy · Post by **The Great Hairy** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 4:44 pm

*Passes Monolith a chocolate chip cookie*

Thanks mate! I've been reading up on this title over at Duck & Cover, and it looks veeeeeery interesting. If you get any more info, then please keep us up to date!

Cheers,
TGHO

arno_v · Post by **arno_v** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:34 am

Could you give us some updated info about the game monolith? What do you think after playing the game extensivly?