druid multiclass

dagonet · Post by **dagonet** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:14 pm

other than a multiclass druid/fighter is it possible to get a druid into any other class? dual class from mage for instance , not a lot of character classes can be druids though i think its only human and half elf (not sure though)

or are druids just that bad??

got a bit bored of bard theyre kinda crap

Locke Da'averan · Post by **Locke Da'averan** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:22 pm

if you play a ranger/cleric multiclass you get cleric AND druid spells, but don't know if that's what your after.. i'm playing one through now with my own MP party and he definately has the potential.. with 3wisdom scrolls he's wis will be 21..

dagonet · Post by **dagonet** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 5:59 pm

no i was just hoping to improve the animal shapechange ability and improve it a bit. could have been fun. dont suppose you have any ideas on how to improve your stats while in polar bear form (or whatever thebest shape change ability is)

Skuld · Post by **Skuld** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 8:40 pm

I thought you could only shapechange to wolf, black bear, and brown bear. I'm pretty sure you can't change into a polar bear. But I'd imagine you could use potions to alter stats. Never tried it, so I'm not sure if it's doable or not. Druids are severely crippled in the offensive spells department therefore making them not all that fun to play. But if you're looking for a challenge Druids will do it.

Klorox · Post by **Klorox** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 9:11 pm

Fighter/Druid is the only druid multiclass option.

You can choose a fighter kit and dual-class into a druid, though. The Berserker- and Kensai- Druid are popular choices. Just remember to only spend proficiencies on Druid-usable weapons, or you'll be wasting those valuable slots.

dagonet · Post by **dagonet** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 4:58 pm

[QUOTE=Locke Da'averan]if you play a ranger/cleric multiclass you get cleric AND druid spells, but don't know if that's what your after.. i'm playing one through now with my own MP party and he definately has the potential.. with 3wisdom scrolls he's wis will be 21..[/QUOTE]

ive just been playing a ranger/cleric , seems quite cool so far. but ive come accross a problem.

he has 18 constitution , and for ever cleric and ranger level , he has 13 hit points. Im not sure how this is distributed separately between the character classes but thats not overly important right now.

e.g. at ranger1/cleric1 he had 13 hit points
at ranger2/cleric2 he had 26 hit points

but at ranger3/cleric3 he only seems to be able to reach 38 hit points. i have saved and loaded a hundred and fifty thousand times to get 39 (yes im a perfectionist sorry) but it just doesnt seem possible?!?! does anyone have any help to give here?? its stressing me out now

thx in advance

Klorox · Post by **Klorox** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:19 pm

Since Clerics and Rangers advance at a different XP rate (Clerics are faster), isn't it possible that you didn't roll maximum HP when leveling up your Cleric class, and it's not "this roll" (your Ranger HP roll) that matters at all?

LotharBot · Post by **LotharBot** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:06 pm

[QUOTE=Klorox]You can choose a fighter kit...[/QUOTE]

Not in BG1 you can't. No such thing as kits until BG2. Still, I like the Fighter/Druid in BG1 -- with ToSC, you can go to level 7 as a fighter and then dual and go to 8 as a druid before the end of the game. (You can then select a kit at the start of BG2 for the fighter class.)

dagonet, what makes you so sure each level should be worth 13? Just because the first 2 were doesn't mean the rest should be.

dagonet · Post by **dagonet** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 5:10 am

i dont understand the rules well enough to come up with an intelligent response to your question. but as far as i know , characters that start with 13 hit points can go up 13 hit points for every character level. or ones that start with 14 can go up a maximum of 14. or a mage with 6 health goes up 6 every level. i dont understand why i cant get to 39 with my cleric/ranger

Volever · Post by **Volever** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:03 am

You can, but it takes a little longer. For a while, your cleric/ranger will be level 3/2. At that point, you cant get 39 hit points, it just isnt possible with the rolls you get. However, when your ranger changes to level 3, you will be able to gain hit points again to reach 39. That being said, it may take a lot of reloading and leveling up to get max hit points everytime. So it is possible, it just may take a lot of work.

And if the max points for the first two levels was 13 each, then it will be for every level until your 10th level, which you cant get in BG anyway. The max hit points you gain per level doesnt change unless for some reason your CON changes

dagonet · Post by **dagonet** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:08 am

yeah this is what i thought but i swear ive tried so many times the hit point max roll has gone from 13 to 12 im level cleric4/ranger4 now and i still cant roll for 13 i just stick with 12 :|

if anyone else wishes to try this id appreciate

Locke Da'averan · Post by **Locke Da'averan** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:21 pm

i don't know how the modifiers for +hp apply on multiclass(my cleric/ranger has con of 19 and he sure ain't getting that +5 on his rolls..(i think that's how it's s'pose to be..) can someone with greater knowledge of 2nd edition dnd explain this..?

Andyr · Post by **Andyr** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:52 pm

I am not 100% sure, but I think on a multiclass level up you get the average of your two classes' HP. Or half of the one you just levelled in.

Either way, bonuses for exceptional CON do not apply all the time if not all of your classes get bonuses. For example, in a Ranger/Cleric multiclass having a CON of 18 as opposed to 16 only makes a difference for the Ranger.

Klorox · Post by **Klorox** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:48 am

Multiclass hitpoints:

Let's say your druid level goes up. you roll 1d8 and divide it by two. Then add 1/2 your CON bonus. When your fighter level advances, you roll 1d10 and divide by two, and then add 1/2 your CON bonus.

If you were a 3 classed character, divide your die-roll (of the appropriate class) by three, and then add 1/3 of your CON bonus.

lompo · Post by **lompo** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:32 am

Dagonet also remember that fighter type (figh./pal./rang) get uncapped hp. bonus due to constitution, while all other classes get the hp. bonus up to a max 16 con.: in your case you should get 1-10/2 + 4/2 hp/lv for your ranger class, 1-8/2 + 2/2 hp/lv for your cleric class.

dagonet · Post by **dagonet** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:03 pm

[QUOTE=lompo]Dagonet also remember that fighter type (figh./pal./rang) get uncapped hp. bonus due to constitution, while all other classes get the hp. bonus up to a max 16 con.: in your case you should get 1-10/2 + 4/2 hp/lv for your ranger class, 1-8/2 + 2/2 hp/lv for your cleric class.[/QUOTE]

so that makes for 7 max hp per level for ranger class and 5 hp per level for druid class which = 12hp , which is wrong because i rolled for 6 for an extra cleric level.

i just cant seem to roll for 7 hp on the ranger level up. maybe im just having bad luck. i dont really care anymore. he can just stick with slightly less than max hp..............................................