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Multi-Strongholds? Multi-Characters?

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2000 9:41 am
by Morkwin The Pusilamious
Sorry if this issue has been touched on before but...

Is it possible for a single Player created Character to win more than one stronghold? I was was a mage/fighter and I won Nalia's Keep but never seemed to get a chance at a Mage's Tower?

Another question - if you have a party containing two or more player-created characters and they're of different classes, can they each win a stronghold?

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2000 9:55 am
by Mr Sleep
Yes you can own more than one stronghold with your central character, you can not have a stronghold with any other charcters only your main one much like familiars Image

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2000 9:57 am
by Sourced
Yes and No

Yes, you can get two strongholds and No only the protoganist (where's the spell checker here?) can get a stronghold.

As on the topic on how to get 'em, you should check the BG2 site here on GameBanshee

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2000 10:07 am
by Maurice
Exchange the second 'o' with the first 'a', and you're all settled! In other words, it's 'protagonist'. Always glad to help a friend in need ... not that I'm a spell-checker, mind you Image

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2000 2:43 pm
by Smack Dragon
So with a fighter/mage/thief or other triple combo can you have 3 strongholds?

I feel a new game coming on...

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2000 4:25 am
by Morkwin The Pusilamious
Actually, I played a Fighter/Thief/Mage and I only got one stronghold - Nalia's keep. Perhaps I missed out on some quests tho'. However, my party was instantly admitted into the Thieves Guild in the Dock Area when we wandered past.

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2000 4:25 am
by Morkwin The Pusilamious
Actually, I played a Fighter/Thief/Mage and I only got one stronghold - Nalia's keep. Perhaps I missed out on some quests tho'. However, my party was instantly admitted into the Thieves Guild in the Dock Area when we wandered past.

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2000 4:36 am
by Maurice
There's a trick to this that was posted a while ago.

Every Stronghold quest - except for the Keep of Nalia - is completed when finishing the final quest in the line-up. However, not the one of Nalia; she offers you to take the keep when you've completed the Stronghold quests for the fighter.

Ignore her offer for the time being, and activate the Stronghold quest for your other class. Only accept Nalia's offer once you've concluded the other Stronghold quest.

I assume that after accepting one Stronghold quest, you can't complete (or even start) other Stronghold quests. Nalia's Keep is an exception, since you actually already finished it - so you have no active Stronghold quests standing out anymore - but not yet formally - you didn't "seal the pact" with Nalia yet - so you can activate another Stronghold quest.

Someone correct me, if I'm wrong on this.

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2000 4:45 am
by Morkwin The Pusilamious
Clever, very clever.

Can you help me in identifying some of those quests - or at least where they begin?

I know - I thinkl - that the Mage Quest revolves around Lavok's Planar Machine and that the Thieve's Guild will prompt the Thief's quest - but what is the Priest's Quest or the Barbarian's or the Bard's? I ask for info. only really.

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2000 4:50 am
by Sourced
Originally posted by Morkwin The Pusilamious:
but what is the Priest's Quest or the Barbarian's or the Bard's? I ask for info. only really.

The priest quests start in the temple district (as maurice his last character was a priest). I assume that your allignment decides which temple you're gonna work for.

The monk and barbarian quest are the same as the fighter quest.

The bard's quest revolves around the theatre under the inn in (I think) the bridge district.

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2000 5:00 am
by Maurice
Priest: depends on your kit, not alignment. My Priestess was a follower of Lathander, so she got her quests from that Temple. If you follow Helm of Talos, you can also find your temples in that area.

The bard, as Source already wrote, finds his Stronghold Quest in the Five Flagons Inn, in the Bridge District. However, before you can access it, you'll first have to help Haer'Dalis and consorts with their problems.

The Thief indeed finds his Stronghold in the Docks District, after talking to the Shadow Thieves.

The Mage indeed finds his Stronghold in the Planar Sphere of Lavok. You will be given this quest by someone from the Cowled Wizards if I'm right.

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2001 12:31 pm
by Craig
Wicth line do you use to postpone the collection of nalias keep

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My soul may be warped by evil;My conscious by bribe, but the true path has never vanished for i have Just heart and kind way.

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2001 4:23 am
by Craig
Spump

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2001 2:12 pm
by Dead Frog
Accept quest to save her keep.
Kill all trolls and wasnot.
Don't talk to her...
Do other stronghold quest.
Talk to Nalia and accept.

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2001 5:09 pm
by Xyx
I play Ranger/Cleric. Nalia tells me I'm "not a fighting type", some dude in the Temple of Helm tells me I am "not of the flock"... Are these people blind? :mad: :rolleyes:

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2001 5:42 pm
by Meerlight
Rangers get the ranger stronghold in the Umar Hills Xyx. As for the Cleric stronghold problem... are only priests with kits allowed a stronghold and vanilla clerics get no stronghold (due to the game not knowing what temple to put you in) and if so, isn't this a bug? Or do vanilla clerics have to go to a different temple stronghold based on alignment? (lathander for good, helm for nuetral, talos for evil)

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2001 12:34 am
by Sabre
Normal Clerics get the stronghold based on alignment.

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2001 6:17 am
by Loredweller
Regarding ranger/cleric you anyway have to get or make some patch - this combo has slipped the developers' attention, you never can get cleric's stronghold save if you do the whole Unseeing Eye before ranger becomes active.

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2001 3:27 am
by Xyx
Originally posted by Meerlight:
<STRONG>Rangers get the ranger stronghold in the Umar Hills</STRONG>
I know, I just don't like Nalia's wordings... A good mini/maxed Ranger/Cleric kick more a$$ in SoA than any single-classed Fighter, but has to suffer the indignities of being called "not a fighting type"... :mad: