Armor Class

MegaToerist · Post by **MegaToerist** » Wed Jul 25, 2001 10:53 am

I was just wondering:

What is the AC of your characters? I've read about people getting as low as -20, but I guess that's by giving all goods to the same character.

I've been planning a bit to pass my time until ToB comes out here in Belgium, and here's what I came up with:

ME (Enaloindir, HM Ranger):
White Dragon Scale, 18 Dex, Lavender Ioun Stone,
= -11

MINSC
Vhailor's Helm, Armor of Hart, Sentinel +4, Montolio's Cloak
= -11

JAHEIRA
Helm of Glory, Blue Dragon Scale, Darksteel Shield +4, Dex bonus from the Machine of Lum the Mad
= -11

ANOMEN
Helm of Balduran, Plate of Balduran, Shield of the Order +4, Gauntlets of Dexterity
= -11

SAREVOK
Whong Fei's Ioun Stone, Shuruppak's Plate Mail, Ring of Earth Control, Cloak of the Sewers, Ring of Gaxx
= -11

IMOEN
Bracers of Defense AC 3, Improved Cloak of Protection +2, Amulet of the Master Harper, Dusty Rose Ioun Stone
= -7

I know there are more powerful armors than the ones I use, but I don't get into the powergaming business

. (Nobody wields the Flail of Ages or Axe of the Unyielding

)

What do you guys think?
TC, Geert

polaris · Post by **polaris** » Wed Jul 25, 2001 12:11 pm

I could think of a couple of things to make your ACs lower (for a mage weild Staff of the Magi while wearing the Ring of Gaxx.....those stack with rings/cloaks of protection). You may want to look into Cespenar's Special Elven Chain

[Base AC of zero and great for Mages.]

Having said that, I wouldn't worry. Your ACs are just fine to finish the game with fine style. I have found that AC really doesn't make much difference once you go below -5 or so.

-Polaris

nael · Post by **nael** » Wed Jul 25, 2001 12:43 pm

mages can't use that chain mail, but thieves can, who can also use the white dragon armor.
i have found from playign TOB, that damage and number of hits is better than a low AC. not a single one of my characters uses a shield and they are all at least -6.
but you have obviously done soem extensive work, and no matter how you play it, i'm sure you'll like TOB when it gets there

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Wed Jul 25, 2001 12:57 pm

-10 i think

Rogue · Post by **Rogue** » Wed Jul 25, 2001 1:20 pm

Try this for a low AC:

AC = 6 with dex bonus
AC = -6 with Armor of Hart
AC = -11 with Sentinel Shield
AC = -13 with Ring of Gaxx
AC = -14 with Earth Control Ring
AC = -15 with Ax of Unyeilding, I think..

If you had a dual/multi class Mage you could stack the spell Blur to get a lower AC.

HighLordDave · Post by **HighLordDave** » Wed Jul 25, 2001 1:30 pm

Big Metal Unit starts at a -10 AC, with other gear and DEX bonuses, you can get it down to -20.

Nael-Dual-classed mages (Imoen, Nalia & Aerie) can wear Elven Chain and retain their wizard spell-casting abilities. That means they can't use Rings and Cloaks of Protection, but the Aslyferund Elven Chain +5 is AC 0 and makes you immune to normal weapons.

[ 07-25-2001: Message edited by: HighLordDave ]

nael · Post by **nael** » Wed Jul 25, 2001 1:33 pm

wow, that's pretty cool, i'll have to keep that in mind next time through. i gave it to my assassin till i got the white dragon armor.
so, can dualed/multi'd mages wear the white dragon armor as well?

polaris · Post by **polaris** » Wed Jul 25, 2001 8:23 pm

Nael,

No. Dualed/Multi Magi can NOT wear shadow/white dragon mail. Elven chain (and Drow Chain) is special. It is IIRC the only kind of true armor that permits Mages to cast spells.

-Polaris