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Lightsaber forms

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:02 pm
by Kadaver
Does your lightsaber form affect your fighting technique (do you see a difference when you're using another form)?

When you're asking T3 to make computer spikes, does he actually stop sometimes or can you just keep asking him to make you spikes until you have 99?

Don't you agree with me that darth sion is awfully similair to burnt anakin skywalker in episode 3:mischief:

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:57 pm
by Hill-Shatar
[QUOTE=Kadaver]Does your lightsaber form affect your fighting technique (do you see a difference when you're using another form)?[/QUOTE]

It adds some effects that you can see displayed in the window whenever you switch techniques for lightsaber use. There is no visual difference, other than a few more blaster shots being sent back to the enemy if you8 are using that style.

[QUOTE=Kadaver]When you're asking T3 to make computer spikes, does he actually stop sometimes or can you just keep asking him to make you spikes until you have 99?[/QUOTE]

He stops somewhere around ten or so, from what I remember.

[QUOTE=Kadaver]Don't you agree with me that darth sion is awfully similair to burnt anakin skywalker in episode 3[/QUOTE]

Anakin was redder and a mite more crispy. ;)

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:31 am
by Kadaver
Oh Yeah, and another thing about lightsaber form, are they effective when you are not wielding a lightsaber?

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:12 am
by mr_sir
no, they are lightsaber forms so you have to use a lightsaber to work. the force forms however can be used no matter what weapon you have.

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:50 pm
by Kadaver
There are seven forms but you can only learn 6? Does it depend on the master which form you learn? Or on your class, sentinel/guardian, because i got ferocity from kavar but i missed niman.

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:32 pm
by B'omarr_Monk
I think it depends on both your current class and the master you learn from.

As a Guardian I got a lightsaber form from Zez'Kai-Ell (or what's his name?) on Nar Shaddaa, but as a Sith Lord, I got Force Potency.

About the 7th form: You should learn the final form near the end of the game.

*SPOILER*
As a lightsider, I got the quite powerful Force Enlightment, which allows you to activate a number of suporting force powers at the same time (I think it was Energy Resistance, Speed and Valor).

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:53 am
by Greg.
All characters get:

Determination (shii-cho)
Contention (makashi)
Resilience (soresu)
Force Channel

Depending on class, you may also get:
Aggression (ataru)
Perseverence (shien)
I cant remember the name, but its good for balance (niman) (not on the GB site)
Ferocity (Juyo)
Force Affinity
Force Potency
Force mastery (Not on the GB site)

Consulars/Masters/Sith Lords get the force forms :D

Each class gets them in the same order, NO MATTER WHAT MASTER TEACHES THEM.

Hope this helps...

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:44 am
by Kadaver
That are seven lightsaber forms, and you can only learn six, and i wanna know when do you get ferocity and when moderation (niman)

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:54 am
by mr_sir
you don't get all the forms every game. which forms you get depend on your original class and your prestige class. if you have never recieved those two forms then you need to play as a different class. as for the most powerful forms, you do not get those til quite close to the end of the game.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:18 am
by Greg.
You get the 4 at the top of my list in the last post. (3 saber + one force)

You then get 3 others based on class... NOT all of them

So you learn 7 forms - which can be saber or force forms...

The 3 forms based on class are learned either from the jedi master or Kreia when you fight the jedi master. List below:
Spoiler
Vrook on Dantooine
Kavar on Onderon (pt.2)
Zez-kai-ell on Nar Shadaa
@Hill, or any other moderator - is there any chance that niman and Force Mastery can be added to the force power section in the GB guide?

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:56 am
by virpyre
Lightsaber Forms Info

I'm posting this to help people out:

*J.M = Jedi Master

Basic Forms
Shii-Cho
Jedi Consular: Lv. 7
Jedi Guardian: Lv. 7
Jedi Sentinal: Lv. 7

Makashi:
Jedi Consular: Lv. 10
Jedi Guardian: Lv. 8
Jedi Sentinal: Lv. 12

Soresu:
Jedi Consular: Lv. 12
Jedi Guardian: Lv. 10
Jedi Sentinal: Lv. 8

Force Channel:
Jedi Consular: Lv. 8
Jedi Guardian: Lv. 12
Jedi Sentinal: Lv. 10


Advance Forms
Ataru:
Jedi Consular: Not Learned
Jedi Guardian: First J.M
Jedi Sentinal: Second J.M
Jedi Master: Not Learned
Jedi Watchman: Second J.M
Jedi Weapon Master: First J.M
Sith Assassin: Second J.M
Sith Lord: Not Learned
Sith Marauder: First J.M

Shien:
Jedi Consular: Not Learned
Jedi Guardian: Second J.M
Jedi Sentinal: First J.M
Jedi Master: Not Learned
Jedi Watchman: First J.M
Jedi Weapon Master: Second J.M
Sith Assassin: First J.M
Sith Lord: Not Learned
Sith Marauder: Second J.M

Niman:
Jedi Consular: Not Learned
Jedi Guardian: Not Learned
Jedi Sentinal: Third J.M
Jedi Master: Not Learned
Jedi Watchman: Third J.M
Jedi Weapon Master: Not Learned
Sith Assassin: Third J.M
Sith Lord: Not Learned
Sith Marauder: Not Learned

Juyo:
Jedi Consular: Not Learned
Jedi Guardian: Third J.M
Jedi Sentinal: Not Learned
Jedi Master: Not Learned
Jedi Watchman: Not Learned
Jedi Weapon Master: Third J.M
Sith Assassin: Not Learned
Sith Lord: Not Learned
Sith Marauder: Third J.M


Force Forms
Potency:
Jedi Consular: First J.M
Jedi Master: First J.M
Sith Lord: First J.M

Affinity:
Jedi Consular: Second J.M
Jedi Master: Second J.M
Sith Lord: Second J.M

Mastery:
Jedi Consular: Third J.M
Jedi Master: Third J.M
Sith Lord: Third J.M


Form Descriptions
Shii-Cho
Attack Modifier: + 1
Defense: +3
Defense vs. current target: -3

Makashi:
Attack Modifier: +3 with Lightsaber
Damage: +3
Blaster bolt deflection: -5
Saves vs Force powers: +2

Soresu:
Defense vs. current target: +2
Blaster bolt deflection: +4
Weapon threat range: -1

Force Channel:
FP Regeneration: +50% (noncombat)
Force power damage: +3
Saves vs Force powers: +2

Ataru:
Defense: -2
Defense vs. current target: +5
Blaster bolt deflection: -4
Weapon threat range: -1

Shien:
Attack Modifier: + 2
Defense vs. current target: -5
Blaster bolt deflection: +2
Critical Multiplier: +1

Niman:
Attack Modifier: + 1
Defense: +1
Blaster bolt deflection: +1
Saves vs Force powers: +1

Juyo:
Defense: -4
Defense vs. current target: +2
Saves vs Force powers: -4
Attacks per round: +1
Critical hit attack modifier: +4

Potency:
Force power damage: +30%
FP cost: +20%

Affinity:
FP Regenerate during combat

Mastery:
Force power duration: +50%
Opponets` Saves vs Force powers: -2
Saves vs Force powers: -4
FP cost: +20%