Imperial City: Thoronir (SPOILERS)

ZoeyAnnika · Post by **ZoeyAnnika** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:39 pm

Has anyone taken on the miniquest in the Imperial City involving Thoronir. Im supposed to figure out why his prices are high and Edgar's are so low. I cant figure out what to do!

fable · Post by **fable** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:53 pm

Please put a SPOILER in the thread title of something like this--as the sticky thread says.

I'll change this one. You have to take care of future ones.

Post by **BuckGB** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:31 pm

Actually, I think you have that switched around. Thoronir's prices are much lower than everyone else, and the local society wants to know why. If you speak to him about it, he will deny everything. Wait until he closes his store, though, and follow him until he has a late-night meeting. That should put you on the right track.

LordKilborn · Post by **LordKilborn** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:22 pm

Been there, done that...

I'm the husband of ZoeyAnnika. She can't get her password to work, so here I am.

Wev'e followed Thoronir several times since buying the game... each time, Thoronir goes to a small courtyard where he meets Agarmir. In every case we've seen, they just stand there... ALL NIGHT LONG! Even when we sneak up on them through the passageway behind them (and there's no way they know we're there), no matter how long we wait, they never say anything, and no extra person ever joins them.

Agarmir will consistently deny he knows Thoronir, yet he stands (in the rain, often) with him all night. So that's fishy, but there's no progress being made.

A couple of attempts have noticed Thoronir going to the Arboretum to meet with a woman; Thoronir said something about a woman named Irene.

The attempt before this one noticed Edgar walking to the courtyard where T and A meet, and as he has similarly bargain-basement prices we are suspicious of him as well. But he just walked through the courtyard and entered his shop.

So, we're stuck we feel...

Lacarion · Post by **Lacarion** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:33 pm

When I did the quest I had to stand in a certain spot before their dialog started, I think it was in one of the bushes.

LordKilborn · Post by **LordKilborn** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:43 pm

That did it!

Ok, there's a green bush (no flowers) right next to where they are standing, and on sneak, it shows they can see you entirely. My wife even walked up right next to them trying out locations (without being on sneak!) and that was the right spot, and they started talking.

So even though it doesn't make sense... that's where you have to go... the green bush right next to them... even though they can see you the whole time.

Thanks very much!

phxhawk · Post by **phxhawk** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:39 am

Thank you!! I had tried this quest three times to no avail.

I'm going to try your suggestion as soon as I boot the game up today.

Thanks again!!

LordKilborn · Post by **LordKilborn** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:36 pm

Final results for those considering completing this quest

Completion of the quest takes a while, but here's the results so you can decide if following up is worth it.

Your reward from Jensine is small, BUT there are some nice items you get as gifts and spoils.

Net profit:
100 gold from Jensine;
Ring w/ 10% resist frost & 10% resist fire, worth 1100 gold (more than the amulet of kings, ironically);
NICE sword (Debaser, one handed), damage of 2, drains willpower 5 pts for 20 seconds on strike, drains endurance same level & duration, worth 528 gold.

In addition, you can loot the armor off the guy helping Thoronir, which is likely better than your own (if this is your first or second quest), plus take all the stuff you don't use and sell it.

So if those totals sound good to you, the quest is worth it.

phxhawk · Post by **phxhawk** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:55 pm

Thanks for the tip about where to stand. I finished the quest today.

Thanks again LordKIliborn

dostovskk · Post by **dostovskk** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:53 pm

Similar problem (spoiler)

Hello,

I am also trying to finish this quest, but unfortunately I have a problem. Once I have stolen the book, and have brought it to thoronir to confront him, he says I have to go and find Argamir to see with him ( thoronir wants proof of what I am saying) but when I go to speak with Argamir, he says he doesn't know the book, etc If I talk to jensine (who is the one who gives the quest) she tells to confront Thoronir. When I go back to Thoronir, he tells to speak to Argamir. So it is an endless circle, if anybody knows what to do...

Cailan · Post by **Cailan** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:17 pm

this is the part i didnt like about the quest.... go back to the crypt and take the shovel... yeah i know, lame isnt it

dostovskk · Post by **dostovskk** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:41 am

First of all, thanks for answering. I don't understand one thing though, by the crypt do you mean agarmir's basement ? Because I found a shovel in his basement but nothing happens when I go to speak to him or Thoronir. I tried to follow Agarmir to see what he did but he just walked around without doing anything useful.

dostovskk · Post by **dostovskk** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:40 am

Found the solution

Ok, nevermind. I found the solution. I think there was a bug in the game, because everytime I spoke to thoronir after having stolen the Macabre book,the quest wouldn't advance. So I just loaded the game to a time before I started the quest, and I redid the quest and this time it worked. Cheers.

Gobatcha · Post by **Gobatcha** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:35 am

How'd you get in Argamir's house?

I'm trying this quest myself. I waited for Argamir to leave his house and had to break in. My SECURITY isn't great and my picks break all the time (despite the listen-to-the-clicks approach). I finally broke in, but a guard materialized and arrested me. What's the trick to this portion?

Fljotsdale · Post by **Fljotsdale** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:34 pm

Make sure there is no-one watching you. Go into Sneak mode, and you will easily be able to tell if you are being observed, and can pick the lock when you are unseen..

As for breaking picks: SAVE before you attempt the lock, so you can reload and try again if you are breaking too many picks.

eliasgames · Post by **eliasgames** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 6:25 pm

I just followed Argamir and pickpocketed his key. You do that while sneaking.

Jacob Collstrup · Post by **Jacob Collstrup** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:14 am

I have some problems with this quest too! Each time I go to Jensine's I can't "sell" her the book or shovel as proof. They're not in my inventory, they are when I exit the store. What do I do?

Jacob

Ashen · Post by **Ashen** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:19 pm

You don't sell them, you talk to her about it, as far as I remember anyway, it's been a while.

fable · Post by **fable** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:22 am

If you've got new questions rather than answers for a thread, don't kidnap a thread. Start a new one.

Posts removed.

WindsorFox · Post by **WindsorFox** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:37 pm

This seems to be a troublesome quest. I can not seem to catch Argamir leaving his house. I saved then waited 40 hours in 2 hour increments, everytime I went to pick in it said he was home. How do I trigger for him to leave??