Enchantment Values - Set in stone?

[Gromph]

Are the enchantment values(how much a particular item can soak up) fixed in stone or is there a way to improve them?

Cause I am getting pretty tired of finding kickass items around that VASTLY overpower anything I could ever hope to make with enchanting.

[Greg.]

Other than using the CS, no. If you edit the enchant values using the CS, you end up with weapons that run out of charge very quickly...

[fable]

How high are your Intelligence and Enchanting attributes? Throw in good Luck and an item that can hold a lot of enchantment points, and you have everything that will affect any enchantment you can make.

If you're on a PC, there are also mods that add shops selling, for high prices, items that can store a lot more enchantment points. The Hidden Pathway is a particularly good one.

Also, there are cheesy ways to create incredible items. You just imbibe a Fortify Intelligence potion, make another, imbibe that, make another, etc, until your Intelligence is ridiculously high. Then you enchant your selected item. I don't do this, but we've had threads here about some of the godlike things folks have created. Some of them are pretty funny.

[Greg.]

[QUOTE=fable]Also, there are cheesy ways to create incredible items. You just imbibe a Fortify Intelligence potion, make another, imbibe that, make another, etc, until your Intelligence is ridiculously high. Then you enchant your selected item. I don't do this, but we've had threads here about some of the godlike things folks have created. Some of them are pretty funny. [/QUOTE]

Doesn't that just affect your odds of making the object?

[fable]

[QUOTE=GregtheSleeper]Doesn't that just affect your odds of making the object?[/QUOTE]

If your Intelligence is higher, you can enchant a much more powerful spell into an item. If your item has a higher enchantment value, it can hold a much more powerful spell. If your Enchantment attribute is higher, your chances of creating a successful enchantment increase.

So with a higher Intelligence, you can use (for example) a Fire Damage spell delivering 100 points of damage instead of 20 points of damage, and expect the enchantment to work. Try it with a lower Intelligence, and the enchantment will fail.

[Darzog]

But if you use an Enchanter instead of doing it yourself you don't have to worry about the % chance to create an enchantment, you can fill the item as full as possible.

In that scenario, the amount that an item can hold is fixed based on the item quality (for example all extravagent rings can hold 60 enchant points). The amount that each spell effect uses is also fixed. So if you find an effect you want that takes 30 enchant points, don't put it in an item that can hold 120 points (unless you are going to add multiple effects together).

The only thing that can change when you are using an enchanter is how much gold the enchantment costs which is impacted by your personality/speechcraft/disposition to the mage. Also, how much charge is used on each cast is based on your intelligence and enchant stats.

[fable]

Agreed, going to an Enchanter ensures success. The only problem is that many of those spells are very costly, especially the constant effect ones and those that do massive damage on attack. If you have the high Intelligence and Enchantment stats, you can completely bypass the cost. Neither is superior; it's just a matter of which suits your stat configuration and wallet.

[Gromph]

I let a trail of dead High Ordinators pay for my item lust.

So anyway, as you were saying. Will a high intelligence score lower the enchantment value that a spell takes when being slotted into an item or would it only increase my chance of making it if I decided to fly solo without paying an enchanter?

Edit: For the record, I am stuck on the Xbox, my computer version of Tribunal/Bloodmoon no longer work and I am too cheap(and unable lately) to find a copy of it for PC.

[fable]

I let a trail of dead High Ordinators pay for my item lust.

Them's good pickin's, too.

So anyway, as you were saying. Will a high intelligence score lower the enchantment value that a spell takes when being slotted into an item or would it only increase my chance of making it if I decided to fly solo without paying an enchanter?

The second. Plus, no cost to you.

[Gromph]

That is a plus, if it weren't for enchanting then I would be basically swimming in riches(over 3 million gold spent on enchanted items so far, some discarded, some broken and abandoned cause they weighed me down for no use at the time).

However, better items does intrigue me, maybe I can stop being cheap long enough to drop some money to buy it for the PC, in that case, where can I find such mods?

[fable]

One good place to check is Mythic Mods. Another is PlanetElderScrolls.

[Darzog]

Also check the two stickies at the top of the forum:
[url="http://www.gamebanshee.com/forums/elder-scrolls-iii-morrowind-29/mods-for-mod-defs-and-links-only-31850.html"]Mods (for mod defs and links ONLY)[/url]
[url="http://www.gamebanshee.com/forums/elder-scrolls-iii-morrowind-29/the-morrowind-yellow-pages-21601.html"]The Morrowind Yellow Pages[/url]

Also these threads are very useful and list several different mods that people have enjoyed:
[url="http://www.gamebanshee.com/forums/elder-scrolls-iii-morrowind-29/major-drawbacks-morrowind-mods-75830.html"]The Major Drawbacks of Morrowind and the Mods you use to Overcome them[/url]
[url="http://www.gamebanshee.com/forums/elder-scrolls-iii-morrowind-29/new-beginnings-or-going-hippy-d-76103.html"]New Beginnings (or going hippy )[/url]

[Gromph]

Thanks a lot guys, just got my paycheck so once I hunt down a copy I am likely buying them today (wooo mods!)

Edit: Checked the mod thing, all the ones that Fable listed in his first post sound neat, but where are the links to them? I assumed the name would be a link but no...eh?

[fable]

For all those mods? You have any idea how long it would have taken to make a post like that? Try the links we've provided, and search on portions of their titles. I know PlanetElderScrolls had quite a few, and I linked that, above.