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Enchanting ?

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I have about 10 Grand Soul Gems with either Golden Saint or Ascended Sleeper.
Well, it appears I "over-leveled" a bit, so the fights are going my way; for now.

1) I only have 4 gems unused = should I keep trapping them or are there better/tougher enemies yet to come which would give me more enchanting points ?

2) Using a Daedric Wakazashi(Soultrap + Absorb health) and Daerdric Shortsword(Absorb Health). Wanted to try a dagger, but the Glass Dagger, the best I found found to date, only allows 1pt ? Is that the limit on Dsggers ?
The Shortsword has about 25pts = is there that much of a droppoff ... if I found a Daedric Dagger, would I get more points ? ... Or, are Dsggers just too small to hold much in them(... enchanting points)

3) I've noticed, the Ascendrd Sleepers, Ash Ghouls + any other "ranged" enemies nullify my spells in midflight ... so I basically use up magicka without dealing any health damage
If I figure correctly, the best I could do is add 160 CE Fortify Intelligence points ... that'd about 2-4 extra spell casts = not worth it IMO ... I couldn't stop any of the bigger enemies ... I've resorted to using my sword much more than expected(... I turned into Fable - LOL)
Plus, it seems threse enemies have high magicka resistance ? ... I use up all my magicka and they still have about 50% health left

So, I'm wondering, would I be better off adding Dispel or Magic Resistance to my "clothes" ... have 3-6 exquisite robes/belts/shors/rings( ... only 1 trousers and no gloves)
So, I have room to experiment on a good ensemble :-)
(Breton - Mage - Apprentice)

Thanks for the help ... would not have made it this far without it !
Been questing like crazy = hope I don't run into the Telvanni bug(.. in another post)
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Post by galraen »

Golden Saints and Ascended Sleepers are as high as they go, well apart from Vivec that is.

Daedric Wakazashis and Shortswords are as good as it gets for self enchantment purposes, there are a few tasty enchanted shortswords/daggers in the game as well though.Spoiler:
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Fyrse Hags on Solstheim carry nice ones, and there's a good one in 6th house base SE of Gnisis.
Getting spells through on other spell casters is all about timing. As you've noticed if you both cast at roughly the same time the spells collide and nullify each other, missile weapons can also collide with a cast spell as well.

CE effects I use are Restore Fatigue and/or health, fortify attribute or skill (have to go to Mournhold for the latter). Resist magic isn't cost effective, and I can't see the point of CE dispel.
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Been questing like crazy = hope I don't run into the Telvanni bug(.. in another post)
Basically... once you get into the upper ranks, you need to avoid raising your levels in Telvanni prematurely by asking for advancement.

This is from UESP, hope it helps:
The bug/feature occurs when you try and advance to the last rank in the House and are told you cannot. It is supposed to start when you advance from the rank of Wizard when speaking to Master Aryon (in Tel Vos, use topic Magister):

I can grant you the rank of Master now. That will give you an equal place on the Telvanni Council. But if you aspire to a higher claim, I can also grant you the title of Magister. By accepting the title of Magister, you are announcing that you deserve the title of Archmagister more than Gothren who currently holds that rank. Which will it be?

However, some people have mentioned that they have problems advancing to Archmagister even if they never choose to have this one time advance to Magister, leaving them quite stuck at the rank of Magister.

In order to advance, you are supposed to speak to Aryon again (topic Magister again).

You have foresworn the title of Magister... But perhaps you have changed your mind. Will you fight Archmagister Gothren and claim the title as your own?

You should choose to fight Gothren, kill him, and return to Aryon to be named as the Archmagister.

Again, however, some people have not been able to do this. The last option for those playing the PC version of the game is to cheat. Open the console using the ~ tilde key and enter the command:

PCRaiseRank "Telvanni"
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Post by AmpaSand »

Try a CE resist, refect or absorb. Or nasty Damage intel on target 25pts for 5-10 seconds Mahahah! then the same for strength! I left dagoth ur totally harmless like that.
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Galraen - you had to put the word "tasty" in the post :-)
All I found was another fortress-like place ... Berandas (sp?)
No funny red/black symbol stuff ... not a 6th House
Getting late. Past pill time ......> game is killing me
Will look SE of Gnisis again friday night.

(.. bought another copy, in case I scratch this one)

After hitting 2 places that weren't labled 6th House, but had Ascended Sleepers etc, it finally dawned on me; "it's not a house/town, but a series of places".

DW: got it !
Don't ask to advance = I'll let them advance me.
Trying to do as many Telvanni quests as I can sequentially ... so I can go back to a prior save if need be
I save so often, I usually only keep the last 5-10.

Ampasand: may try the absorb or reflect.
Though, with all the "big baddies" reflecting, won't it be a "reflect-off" contest (LOL) ... I was thinking of it earlier, but figured I'd have to get my reflect rating above 70% or so ?
Damage INTL/STR ... sounds doable :-)

I have so many gems + exquisite clothing, I figure it would be best to "use" them ?!
Plus, I'm close to $1,000,000 if I could sell all the stuff I collected = might as well spend some money

Ghorak Manor looks like a weapons/equipment wharehouse = luckliy I can walk through the piles
Was thinking of killing someone and taking their house ... I need storage space
Maybe kill a shop owner and put all "my stuff" on display.

Thanks for the help.
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Post by wing »

it's impossible in morrowind to go into 'reflect face-offs'. each spell can only be reflected once. it wouldn't be a bad idea, however, to get that reflect. they can't reflect their spells at you once you reflect them back at them :D
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travel to one of the storage areas in the game. (there are a few below vivec) set mark go to your stash pick up everything you can reach recall and repeat.
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Well, I've been messing with enchantment ideas.
I have to go with a CE.
I tried using those thst would need to be cast like a spell, but my manual dexterity issue caused me to take "a bit more damage" than usual.

On CE Reflect, best I could do was 7pts ... 1pt per article
Don't like 93% getting through to me :-(

I don't put on the "afterburners" much, as the game goes too fast, so fatigure won't work.

As it is, I'm using up my magicka and then wakizashi-ing(... have 30pts Absorb Health on it) them to death.
Seems, if I rush them, run in a zig-zag pattern, I might take 1-2 spells before I get to them ... then I can melee them .. or sometimes they come to me when they run out of magicka

So, it looks like..........>
1) CE Fortify Intelligence ... just hope my spells don't get nullified in mid-flight :-)
2) CE Fortify Speed ... faster I swing my wakizashi, the more hits
3) CE Fortify Agility ... better % of hitting + them missing
4) CE Fortify Speed + Agility

To bad I can't take a poll :-)
Leaning towards CE Intelligence. Since this is a Breton-Mage-Apprentice build/character. Save the speed or speed/agility for me next character.


Guess I can't complain, as I'm beating Golden Saints/Ascended Sleepers ... but it's the sword that's making the difference
Not sure what Tribunial and Bloodmoon have in store :-)
Have so many exquisite clothes + gems, I can experiment and change if needed.
Just found 4 more Grand Soul gems last night ... luckily the game is being kind to me :-)

Anyone know the "math" on speed points added .. how much faster I would swing ... Or agility; the % increases in hitting + them missing
If I could factor the points added vs the increase in these categories, I might get a better idea of where to put them.
Used the "swing fast/hit more + steal health" in previous RPG-character-builds ... works with my " less precise gameplay style".
Don't want to go this route, unless my spellcasting doesn't work.
Keeping my options open while I have the clothes + gems :-)

Thanks for the help + tips !
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Post by BlueSky »

Here's another strategy to try...If you can summon, early in one of my games, I would summon a scamp or skeleton , run away:laugh: ...but just while my summons either took the first melee hits or magic spells, and then I would either use the bow or cast my offensive spells on the enemy. By the time they got past my summons, they were weak enough for my melee attacks.
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Post by AmpaSand »

Try a CE restore fatigue that takes up 5 pts then put a CE resore health 2 pts on a shirt. that will really help as it lessens the need for you to use spells potions etc. Bonus with the manual dex thing.
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... thanks guys
Well, I put CE Intelligence on all my clothes.
I will try the Fatigure/Health if this setup isn't to my liking ... have extras to experiment
Upped my magicka to 660pts ... maybe now I won't run out :-)
Too bad I can't lower the cast cost per spell.

Had to "spin the days", because the CE really cost big bucks.
Must be an easier way.
Well, I'm cash poor and item rich :-)

Hey, finally found Azura Shrine and the island ... you were right Galraen, it isn't the "bees knees"

Plowing through the Mage Guild/Telvsanni quests ... hopefully then I can start "exploring" ... passing up every tomb/cavern = hope I cam re-find them

Came across some Orcs in front of a statue on Dragon Fel ... seems it is a "Pilgrim Site" ... no idea, but it upped my STR 10pts ... better read that "Pilgrim book" :-)

Blue Sky - may try some summoning.
I'm overleveled; now ... trying to slow down my characters leveling up ... since Summon is so low, it would addf about 5 more levels :-)
Even uppped the slider difficulty ... never thought I'd do that
I have some "summons" that look good = may see what they do

Ampasand- made a Damage STR/INTL spell .. chews up 140 cast points (... but with 660pts, guess I can afford it)
Yes, I have been left impotent = would like to try it on some enemies ... if it reflects back, well, guess we just cry :-)

Thanks for all the tips !
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Post by AmpaSand »

660 magica!!!

the most i ever got was 230 or so. Joe, did you make it work over several seconds ? Ie damage str 25 pts for 4 seconds. That takes the cost down and the chance up
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Try using absorb health or attributes instead of damage or drain, non-reflectable.

What level are your Willpower, Destruction etc. Joe? The higher your willpower and the relevant skill, the lower the spell costs.

If you think 660 magica is good, wait till you find a certain robe on Solstheim, it'll be double that, but only indoors or at night.
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But don't those give it back when the effect ends?
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... oh yeah; the ol' reflect hitch.
Thanks for the reminder !

Ampasand - my INTL is 100.
Believe my magicka was 300 before CE.
I just put CE INTL on all my exquiste clothing ... which is everything but gloves
I'm at 660.

10 STR/10 INTL for 10sec STR... believe INTL was 9sec
I had to squeeze it in within the points.
I'm at 100%.

Galraen - WILL is 100. DES is 100.
They won't let me go higher :-(
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Ah!
I meant them to be seperate spells.
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AmpaSand wrote:But don't those give it back when the effect ends?
The attributes, yes, but it doesn't do them much good when they're dead.:laugh:
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But then if it doesn't kill then the monster gets stronger
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