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Simple fighter/thief question

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:47 pm
by Kharas
Sorry if this has been mentioned before but I couldn't find anything on the forum other than just more advanced things about the issue.

I dual classed to thief when my fighter was 9, don't know if that was too smart but I can't be arsed to perfect the char.
But yeah, the question (: p): I get back the dual wielding and weapon skills once I pass level 9 on my thief right? Cause I'd like a dual wielder with thief skills to get me by the annoying traps and all of that.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:45 pm
by Saros
Kharas wrote:Sorry if this has been mentioned before but I couldn't find anything on the forum other than just more advanced things about the issue.

I dual classed to thief when my fighter was 9, don't know if that was too smart but I can't be arsed to perfect the char.
But yeah, the question (: p): I get back the dual wielding and weapon skills once I pass level 9 on my thief right? Cause I'd like a dual wielder with thief skills to get me by the annoying traps and all of that.

Yes, you will. In fact, if you put a * in Dual-Wielding while a thief, then at the time you regain your fighter levels it will be lost. So put proficiency points in other weapons, not those you already picked with your fighter.

You can always play a Swashbuckler, it is the warrior type of thief and IMO it is best if used only for traps and such. He can also get ** where the usual thief gets only * and receives additional fighting bonuses every five levels. In addition, he can be master in dual-wielding. And at lvl 11 you can dual your Swashbuckler to anything you like - cleric, mage, warrior.

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:03 am
by Kharas
Yes, you will. In fact, if you put a * in Dual-Wielding while a thief, then at the time you regain your fighter levels it will be lost. So put proficiency points in other weapons, not those you already picked with your fighter.
Uh, do you mean that it screws up the proficiencies that the warrior picked if you take the same proficiencies with the thief or just that the extra points you put in proficiencies as a thief will be lost?

Oh, and by the way, if I dual a swashy at 11, must I stick to the swashy weapon skills as well when the warrior surpasses 11? I mean, am I stuck with 2 in dual wielding and little weapon skills once I surpass 11?

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:09 am
by Saros
I see I haven't made myself clear. I will explain with examples:

1st example: I am a Swashbuckler lvl 11 with *** in Dual-Wielding and ** in Short swords. I dual to a fighter and give him ** in Dual-Wielding and * in Short swords. After reaching fighter lvl 12, and regaining the inactive class proficiencies, my abilities will be *** in dual-wielding and ** in short swords, i.e. the fighter abilities will not replace the swashbuckler's. In fact, the highest possible opportunity will be taken into consideration. So, if you had, * in dual-wielding with your Swashbuckler and then you give you warrior ** in dual-w, then you will have ** when you regain your inactive class. Note the fact that the stars will not cumulate. Each skill simply will take the higher value. So don't put proficiencies in one and the same weapon style with both of your classes, because you'll waste proficiency points.

2nd example: I am a Swashbuckler and I have ** in Dual-Wielding and * in Short Swords. I dual to a mage at lvl 11. I get 1 proficiency point right after dualling and I place it on Daggers. I don't press the level-up button until I have enough xp for lvl 12 mage(straight from lvl 1 to lvl 12, the xp needed is 750 000). Then I press lvl-up, and I have 2 more proficiencies which NOW I can distribute however I want with my inactive class activated. I.e. I can put a third star in dual-wielding and a second in Short Swords.

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:15 am
by Kharas
Aah I understand now, thanks a lot

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:49 am
by appo13
WAIT!!!! Thats new!

You say: If I'am a Kensai and dualling to mage at level 9. Now I'am wait as a Mage, until i got enough exp for Level 10; than i press the Level up bottom and NOT before. Now I'am Kensai/Fighter and can spend ** in axes for example, what I couldnt do before???

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:35 pm
by Berethor
If you're dual classing to Mage or Fighter, any weapon will do. If you want to dual class to Cleric (the most interesting option, IMO), I think that Quarterstaves are the only viable option.

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:36 am
by EternalWanderer
Berethor wrote:If you're dual classing to Mage or Fighter, any weapon will do. If you want to dual class to Cleric (the most interesting option, IMO), I think that Quarterstaves are the only viable option.
I'm not sure what you mean by "Quarterstaves are the only viable option", do you mean that's the only weapon they can use, or that that's the best weapon they can use?

I'm very new to the game myself, but I recently rolled a dualclassed ranger/cleric on the advise of the very helpful people here, and she can wield all blunt weapons. That includes maces, flails, hammers and slings as well, besides the quarterstaff. I'm happily dualwielding a mace and a flail at the moment, and that works great.

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:36 am
by Craig
Viable as in best route.

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:44 am
by galraen
Craig wrote:Viable as in best route.
Are we talking about a thief dualed to cleric here, or fighter? For a thief then staff is the best option, but for fighter surely it has to be flail for Flail of Ages and Defender of Easthaven?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:06 am
by appo13
What weapons by the way can a multiclassed F/T use? Can he wear axes for example or will he be only able to use thief weapons like katanas or swords?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:55 am
by Dante2377
you will be able to use any weapon as a F/T. You'll only be able to backstab with weapons that a thief can use naturally.