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Baggy Pants to be Outlawed in Atlanta?

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I'm speechless... :eek:

[url="http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/08/23/america/NA-GEN-US-Sagging-Pants-Ban.php"]Proposed amendment would pull up sagging pants in Atlanta[/url]

ATLANTA: Baggy pants that show boxer shorts or thongs are becoming a "major concern" throughout the United States and should be banned in Atlanta, according to a proposed amendment to the city's indecency laws.

"I don't want young people thinking that half-dressing is the way to go. I want them to think about their future," the amendment's sponsor, city councilman C. T. Martin said Wednesday.

Debbie Seagraves, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia, said the law could not be enforced in a nondiscriminatory way because it targets something that came out of the black youth culture.

"This is a racial profiling bill that promotes and establishes a framework for an additional type of racial profiling," she told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution for its Thursday editions.

The proposed ordinance would also bar women from showing the strap of a thong beneath their pants. They would also be prohibited from wearing jogging bras in public or show a bra strap, Seagraves said.

The proposed ordinance states that "the indecent exposure of his or her undergarments" would be unlawful in a public place. It would go in the same portion of the city code that outlaws sex in public and the exposure or fondling of genitals.

The penalty would be a fine in an amount to be determined, Martin said.

Any legislation that creates a dress code would not survive a court challenge, Seagraves said.

Martin, who is black, said he plans to hold public hearings and vet the proposal through churches, civil rights groups and neighborhood organizations.

"The purpose of the paper is to generate some conversation to see if we can find a solution," Martin said. "It will be like all the discussions we've had around the value of the hip-hop culture. We know there are First Amendment issues ... and some will say I'm just trying to put young black men in jail, but it's going to be fines."

Atlanta would not be the first city to take on sagging pants.

Earlier this year, the town council in Delcambre, Louisiana, passed an ordinance that carries a fine of up to $500 (€370) or six months in jail for exposing underwear in public. Several other municipalities and parish governments in Louisiana have enacted similar laws in recent months.
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....the hell?

Yeah it's a concern to me, a concern just enough for me to laugh my arse off when they're freezing in winter, but a LAW?!
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They would also be prohibited from wearing jogging bras in public or show a bra strap
This is something that seriously makes me laugh... :D
Most of the women I know, myself included, tend to show straps from time to time. With the way a lot of shirts are designed these days, it can be difficult to avoid showing straps... Unless you wear strapless, which is simply masochistic.. :rolleyes:
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Martin, who is black, said he plans to hold public hearings and vet the proposal through churches, civil rights groups and neighborhood organizations.
This is an odd statement. What does being black have anything to do with public hearings, hip hop pop-culture, churches, and civil rights dealing with underwear?

Oh, and six MONTHS for indecent exposure? Six months for a thong, yeah, how is this not a violation of "Cruel and Unusual punishments" from the constitution? The football stadium nut gets one or two days for running out into the field completely naked but a bra-strap gets six months if it happens twice with the same person?
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It seems like a case of two idiots locking horns. One's an idiot for trying to legislate on what people can wear, the other's an idiot for trying to make a race issue out of it. Do Atlanta a favour and lock both of them up.
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Anyone dumb enough to want to wear their trousers so low they're probably going to trip over them someday should be able to do so IMO. It's funny to watch...'Sides, I like the occasional thong/bra flash.

The idea of Marilyn Monroe getting fined or jailed for that famous pose is kinda funny though.:laugh: :rolleyes:
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Siberys wrote:This is an odd statement. What does being black have anything to do with public hearings, hip hop pop-culture, churches, and civil rights dealing with underwear?
My guess is that it might be a divisive issue within the Black community itself, I might be wrong though.

Still.... cultural and race sensitivities aside for a moment.... This seems... extreme..
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I would rather see baggy pants than some body types in Spandex....:laugh:
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BlueSky wrote:I would rather see baggy pants than some body types in Spandex....:laugh:
You do have a point there.... :D

The thing is though.. with the baggy pants style, they usually sag around the hips (or quite a lot lower).. which shows underwear and any exposed flesh..
So..er.. I'm not entirely certain this would be preferable to Spandax in certain cases... :eek:
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Maybe they should try to limit certain body types from specific clothing specs......:laugh: :D :laugh:
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I think they fill a useful social function personally. Like stiletto heels, they giive early visual warning that the wearer is, er, intellectually challenged, so you can avoid getting into a conversation with them.
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galraen wrote:I think they fill a useful social function personally. Like stiletto heels, they giive early visual warning that the wearer is, er, intellectually challenged, so you can avoid getting into a conversation with them.
Hmmmm.....personally like to engage in conversation with these women....:laugh:

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Well, meet Bob Doe, a well standing citizen of Delcambre, Louisiana. A lawyer of his profession. You must admit that Bob was not as handsome as he had been in his high school days but it is to be understood considering how his wife, Mary Doe, has been the best pie maker of the whole county for the past ten years running. So Bob has gotten some evidence of happily spend life above his belt. But on one faithful day, he looked down on the street, and noticed a nickel. For sure he knew he would not need a nickel for anything, but nonetheless he bend down to pick it up. And then there was a loud crack, his pants had ripped.

One could imagine this as a sort of comedic outcome. But behind Bob was Mary-Jenn, a not so familiar neighbour holding a little balloon, but she did witness the whole incident and had a good laugh at it. Well, Bob was not so far from his home and the streets were still rather empty and thus he quickly changed his pants.

However, on the following day’s paper, there was an article about the incident, a rather rude one and quite far from being accurate too. Mary-Jenn had just accidentally, mentioned about the incident to her parents while still laughing at it herself, but the damage was done. And this perverted old man had to be punished. A legal case fallowed and the “pervert” refused to pay, instead he pleaded the jury to use common sense and even shoved them the nickel he had picked up.

Six months later, Bob Doe begun to look for a new apartment, preferably on a place where one could accidentally ruin ones pants when picking up a coin on the street.

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Extra Extra U.S. Government calapsing read all about it
City councilman is deranged

although I can see where he is coming from but only if you are thinking about enforceing it in schools not PUBLIC
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I still don't understand how this is about to be restricted but here in bloomington, you can buy novelty foam middle fingers from a gift shop in the mall, wear it on your head, and bike up and down all of downtown with no one giving a crap.

I mean we have a popular Rave site that anybody knows where it is if they simply took one of the bus's routes to the downtown bus terminal, as it's directly across a parking lot. I'm sure they say they're clean, but it's three or four hundred people every day in a basement behind a locked steel bolted shut reinforced door.

I realize I'm comparing my town to this town that's getting baggy pants outlawed, but still, gotta remark on how dumb things can get.....again.
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Wow. What are they going to do with all those bikini wearers down at the swimming pool? Shoot them on sight? Underwear, public enemy nr 1. We have to protect our children!!
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I can imagine this law going to effect in California... at, what was it, $500 a pop? this would generate more revenue than all of the war taxes in history combined. And as for banning it in schools, I doubt I'm the only one who appreciates the split second distraction during a mind-numbing history lecture now and again of a thong flash.
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Hoorah for treating symptoms instead of underlying problems!

edit: anyone seen this? It seems that either the problem is much worse than I thought or councilman C.T. Martin doesn't know what a 'rectal cavity' is.
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