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Help with game terminology and leveling

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As I've said before I'm very new to this game. I have Baldurs Gate the Original Saga which includes Tales of the Sword Coast.
When I search the forms to see if my questions have already answered, I keep seeing the word Tutu. What is this? And is it something I need to be concerned with?
Also I'm at 12 games days and still in Chapter 1 and my character is still level 1. Is that normal for leveling? Thanks in advance.
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Post by Crenshinibon »

TuTu is a module which brings your BG game into the format of BG II, of course you need the second game and the expansion to do that. I say it's nothing to worry about.

Game days have nothing to do with chapters. Only your progress with the main quest.

Your leveling depends on how many monsters you kill and how many quests you do so you're the one to control that. You can only go as high as level seven in the original and I think level ten in ToSC with the experience caps of 89000 and 160000, respectively.
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Tutu is a modification which enables those that have Baldur's Gate 2, Shadows of Amn to play BG1 using the BG2 engine.

If you're avoiding combat a lot, and haven't completed any quests it can take a while to level up, although 12 game days seems like a lot. When your character(s) are ready to level up a gold cross appears on their picture, you level up by clicking on the 'Level up' button on the character sheet.

Some classes level up faster than others, a straight thief is the fastest, a multi-classed Fighter/Mage/Thief is the slowest. Mage is the slowest single class, followed by Paladins.
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Post by sonny »

Thanks. If you guys will endulge my stupidity, When I purchased the game I'm now playing, I also purchased Baldurs Gate 2 The Collection, which includes the expansion.
I wanted to play the original and then 2. So I only have the first one (Baldurs Gate the Original Saga loaded on my PC.

If I did something different here, would the game be better. Sorry for the dumb questions, but I just started playing games about a year ago after I retired. Not very computer smart.

My PC character is a Lawful/Good Fighter and yes I have been avoiding a lot of battles, so that probably explains the slow leveling.

Don't mind starting over if playing (Tutu) will improve game play. Just need to know what to do. Thanks.
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Since you're new to computer games in general and the Baldur's Gate series in particular, I recommend that you keep things simple until you become more knowledgeable.

First of all, if you want to play Baldur's Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast, then play it at least once before you even think about playing Baldur's Gate 2. If you haven't played Dungeons & Dragons before, there are lots of things you need to learn. Don't be afraid to restart the game and experiment. Most of us here have probably restarted hundreds of times just to play around with different characters and to try different things.

If your character has left Candlekeep with Gorion, then you've met Imoen and you've seen a couple of areas. You might have run into a bear or a wolf and noticed that they can easily kill 1st level characters. On the other hand, you might have learned how to kill them without taking any damage (by using missile weapons and hit-and-run tactics, for example). This game is combat-oriented, so you have to kill as many "unfriendly" creatures as you can in order to advance. The trade-off is obvious: you can kill them, but they can also kill you, so you have to be careful.

By the way, this game is also biased in favor of "good" characters, so you shouldn't go around killing "innocent" or "friendly" people. If you accidentally kill an "innocent" person (with a stray fireball, for example), your Reputation will suffer. If you do a lot of good deeds, your Reputation will be greatly enhanced.

The game gives you a lot of guidance. For example, the tutors at Candlekeep offer to teach you how to fight. And more important, the NPCs (non-player characters) give you lots of information if you listen carefully to them. For example, Gorion told you to meet a couple of his friends at the Friendly Arm Inn. They in turn will tell you what you should do next (they want you to meet the mayor of Nashkel and investigate the iron crisis). That's how the main story progresses. Along the way, you'll find a lot other things to do, especially if you talk to people. For example, they might tell you about old dungeons you can explore or give you errands to run. You can earn experience points just by doing favors for people.

There is a lot of territory to explore, and you never know when you might be ambushed, so you should save your game frequently. If you find yourself in a difficult situation, keep reloading until you find a way to beat it. That's how you will improve your skills. Don't be afraid to experiment. You need to learn how to use potions and spells, and you need to learn how to keep your more vulnerable party members safe while still making them be useful. Pretty soon, you'll be eager to face as many challenges as you can find. But the game will always come back at you with even bigger challenges, so stay on your toes and have fun.

Baldur's Gate 2 continues the story that began in Baldur's Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast (which we call BG1). The thing about BG1 is that the major plot points are supposed to be a big mystery for you to unravel. If you play the first chapter of Baldur's Gate 2 before you finish BG1, all of the mystery will be spoiled. Therefore, I recommend that you don't even talk to anyone about BG2 before you finish BG1.

Aside from that, BG2 is so different from BG1, you might as well treat them as separate games. Don't worry about importing your BG1 character into BG2; just create a new character from scratch and pretend they're the same character. And be prepared to change your strategies. There are a lot of new spells, items, and abilities in BG2. Not only will YOU be able to make use of them; your enemies will ALSO be able to make use of them. For example, your Mage cannot cast Stoneskin or Protection From Magical Weapons in BG1, and neither can your enemies. But wait until you see what the Mages can do in BG2--that's just the tip of the iceberg. Then you'll see how different things are in BG2. That's why I suggest that you learn how to play BG1 before you start trying to play BG2. Just go one day at a time. :)
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TuTu is a "mod". Mods are *unofficial* internet downloads, which you would install on your PC, which "modify" the *official* game. Different modifications do different things: some add new joinable characters, some add banter between existing joinable characters, some add new items/spells/quests/etc, some remove the game's experience point cap (allowing for higher level characters)... the list goes on and on.

BG1 uses the BioInfinity game engine. BG2 uses an enhanced version of this engine. The TuTu mod allows you to play BG1 using BG2's enhanced engine.

I recommend first playing the official "vanilla" version of the game, the way the original designers intended it to be played. You will play this great game for the first time only once, and you'd hate to have your virgin run affected by a bug or a balancing issue that was introduced by a mod.

(That said, some mods get rave reviews on these forums, and might be worth a look on subsequent runs, to help keep the game fresh with new content.)

Also, playing BG1 before BG2 is a good idea for many reasons, one of which is the fact that BG2 starts you off at level 7+, which means you start off with a great many spells and abilities, which might be somewhat overwhelming for a rookie. Starting with a level 1 dude allows for a nice progression of options, and a chance to use abilities and spells that may become obsolete at later levels.

I think a Fighter is a great class to start with in BG1 (wizards rule the day in BG2). And level 1 characters *should* be played cautiously. One could argue that the anxiety of potentially being taken out by a lone wolf is more exciting than the uber-god you become by the end of Throne of Bhaal. And when you eventually level up your new character, it's gonna feel great. Bag the mods for now, I say, and enjoy the charm of running a wee character through vanilla BG1!

Your first time playing BG... aahhh. You're a lucky dawg.

(Edit: just saw VD's nice post... yup, keeping things simple at first is why playing a Fighter is a great choice.)
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Post by sonny »

I would like to take the time to thank everyone that has responded to this post.
You guys took the time to explain things to this old new guy and the information is invaluable to me and is greatly appreciated.

I've only been playing this (so far) great game for a short time and having a good time with it.
I asked the questions I did so I could get the most enjoyment I could from the game. I will continue as I am, playing the vanilla BG1 game and look forward to a great adventure. Now if I could just keep my wife from asking who I'm talking to when she here's me talking to the game*laughz

Again many, many thanks. :D
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