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Tremere and Dominate Power

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Tremere and Dominate Power

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I love playing as a tremere, but I am having trouble figuring out how to use, and what is the good of, the second dominate power. It is supposed to make people in a small radius around you forget that you exist for 5 seconds, but it never really works out.

Can someone explain its use to me?
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lifeishell91 wrote:I love playing as a tremere, but I am having trouble figuring out how to use, and what is the good of, the second dominate power. It is supposed to make people in a small radius around you forget that you exist for 5 seconds, but it never really works out.
It is pretty much an area of effect version of Trance. It is okay for crowd control but it is obviously a discipline of last resort because you tend not to be surrounded by melee weapon wielding attackers unless all is fubar. I got it for laughs once and it did come in handy during the diner attack and during the gang fight in the parking garage during the Traffik quest.

It pretty much is the discipline you put xp towards in order to advance the Dominate tree and eventually get Suicide.
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Yup, I'd say it's a waste of XP putting points in Brainwipe. Trance has longer reach and will suffice all your incapacitating needs. If you need a discipline to stop a group of attacking enemies on their tracks and you are a Tremere, you should definitely use Blood Purge, it stops your surroundig foes and also damages them, plus all the blood vomiting looks cool.

If you need more info about other disciplines, be sure to check [url="http://www.planetvampire.com/bloodlines/game/disciplines/"]this site[/url].

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I'd say that the tremere is the best clan of them all so you're doin' the right thing liking them ;)

Although, what you really should aim for in the game with a tremere (easiest way for me at last) is to take dominate to level 3(suicide) and thaumaturgy to level 3(bloodshield).
The rest of the points should be spent on firearms and perception.
I got the 'Jamie Sue' rifle and used it on Society of leopold quest, killed the boss with TWO shots, and the rifle didnt shake or anything while I was aiming.
Of course you'll spend the rest of your points to your liking, depending on how good you feel you are in different areas.

If you are a poor melee fighter you should spend them on stamina and dexterity if you are good you just press on with the strenght and charisma ;)

Note* I got a lot of points reading books and talking to npc's for skillpoints. So get your "scholarship" up early in the game, also gets you persuasion skill up :)
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lifeishell91 wrote:I love playing as a tremere, but I am having trouble figuring out how to use, and what is the good of, the second dominate power. It is supposed to make people in a small radius around you forget that you exist for 5 seconds, but it never really works out.

Can someone explain its use to me?
I've played Tremere a lot and I've only ever used that in one place - during the training session. You have one free point to throw away on disciplines in character set-up, and I throw it away on that one, as mentioned, to get to Suicide faster. The thing is, during training, it will tell you that you're using Trance, but you will go in facing two, not one foe. Move toward them a short distance, and Brainwipe them to get out undetected. It's a bit tricky.

I suppose it would be useful to use in a 'mobbing' situation, but I don't get into that kind of trouble very much. I figured out quite early how to use the Trance-Feed combo to deal with two enemies early in the game, and the Suicide-Trance-Feed triple to deal with three enemies a bit later on. By the time I've got more to deal with, I have Purge, which, as noted, is much more effective as AoE (Area of Effect) goes (and it works on supernaturals), and there are always options like machine-gunning Trance, Suicide, and/or Blood Strike around. It's perfectly doable to deal with 4 enemies with Suicide(1)-Blood Strike(2)-Trance(3)-Suicide(4)-Trance(2)-Feed(3)-Trance(2)-Feed(3)-Feed(2). You can come out a bit short on the overall blood balance, but four down without breaking a nail in a close melee isn't bad damage for a Tremere, and you can have the disciplines necessary before you do the Beach House. En extremis you can just machine-gun somebody to death with Blood-Strike - you only have to wait if you want the blood back. The damage is done out-bound, and Blood Strike tracks. If you're not really pressed, You can Strike twice and just wait for the second to return. Double damage and you come out even. That got me out of a few sticky situations.

The problem with Brain Wipe is like lower levels of Obfuscate. If you actually land on anyone, the jig's up. It's only good if you're trying to evade. Purge, on the other hand...nobody stops puking until they stop puking or die, and I'd rather put them out of their misery:angel:
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