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Fer'or · Post by **Fer'or** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 4:23 am

You should try looking for Nat's set in "The Pit" in the Tamoe Highlands / Act 1, because all the boxes and monsters in that cave are lvl 85, and can drop allmost anything.

But then again, you still do need a lot of luck.

garazdawi · Post by **garazdawi** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 5:34 am

Originally posted by Fer'or
You should try looking for Nat's set in "The Pit" in the Tamoe Highlands / Act 1, because all the boxes and monsters in that cave are lvl 85, and can drop allmost anything.

I'll do that, just hope that there aren't so many lightning immunes down there for my trappasin....

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 7:17 am

I found Nat's claw in the Pit, dropping of a Champion Archer

There is a fair mix of lightning, cold and fire immunes, perhaps a little less lightning immunes than the other two.

garazdawi · Post by **garazdawi** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 8:04 am

Originally posted by C Elegans
I found Nat's claw in the Pit, dropping of a Champion Archer There is a fair mix of lightning, cold and fire immunes, perhaps a little less lightning immunes than the other two.

I just found Templar's Might in the pit, butr no good assasin stuff as yet....

and it's only some of the rouges that are lightning immunes.

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 6:27 pm

Originally posted by garazdawi
I just found Templar's Might in the pit, butr no good assasin stuff as yet....

and it's only some of the rouges that are lightning immunes.

Nice

Is it? I never pay much attention to LI:s

Good for you that they are so few, the Pit is a good place to MF. I am doing Baalruns tonight, Worldstone Keep is also a lvl 85 area, and I was very pleased to see Tal Rasha's armour drop off an Unraveller in Baal's Throneroom

I plan to use the belt, the armour and the amulet on my Meteorb sorc. The amulet is still missing, though.

garazdawi · Post by **garazdawi** » Sun Mar 07, 2004 5:21 am

Originally posted by C Elegans
I am doing Baalruns tonight, Worldstone Keep is also a lvl 85 area, and I was very pleased to see Tal Rasha's armour drop off an Unraveller in Baal's Throneroom I plan to use the belt, the armour and the amulet on my Meteorb sorc. The amulet is still missing, though.

I don't really like doing ballruns with my assa as the Black Soals are often LI and they kill my hench really fast so I can't use my corpse explosion trap on them

lucky you finding tal rasha's armour... I've heard it's pretty hard to find....oh well, back to doing pit runs ^^

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Sun Mar 07, 2004 11:06 am

The Black Souls are absolutely horrible - I do Baalruns with my Meteorb sorc, and she keeps the Blackwhatever unique mask in her stash just for this reason. I don't know how to survive them without Lightning absorb.

Yes, I was incredibly lucky to find Tal's armour

I have never found it before, although I played 1.09 quite a lot, and had 2 MF-barbs and 1 MF-sorc...

EDIT: Just found another pair of Nat's boots...I already have the full set, do you need the boots?

garazdawi · Post by **garazdawi** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 2:06 am

how do you keep finding all this stuff

, but no, no boots for me... I've kinda given up on nat's set... besides it doesn't really suit a trappasin......

anyways... where did you find it? The pit?

oh and I too have that LA mask, but eth so my merc has to were it

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 3:27 pm

You are right, Nat's set suits an MA sin better, that's why I am building one...The reason I find many good items is that I have a very efficient MF-sorc with 300+ to MF - getting over 200 really makes a difference. The beginning was slow, I collected MF-charms and magical and rare boots, gloves, rings and amulets with MF. Then after a while when you start to find some MF-gear you quickly find more and more items...it is usually best to start MF-ing on Meph Nightmare to collect items, then when you have some decent MF-gear you can start MF-ing the 85 areas in Hell such as the Pit, and do boss runs.

For me, it started when I got an Ist rune in my first Hell Hellforge quest. Then I found an Oculus, and after that I have found lots of good exceptional and elite set and unique items

However, a Sin is not a suitable MF char. It is said that a Hammerdin is the ideal MF-char, but since I don't like to play pally I use the next best choice, ie a Meteorb sorc.

garazdawi · Post by **garazdawi** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 4:07 pm

Originally posted by C Elegans
It is said that a Hammerdin is the ideal MF-char, but since I don't like to play pally I use the next best choice, ie a Meteorb sorc.

That's interesting... I have a hammerdin (only lvl 71 as yet though..) , maybe I should try to do some mf with him..... I suppose that a tele item is the key to the hammerdin as a mf....

oh well... I'm gonna do some more mf now... and see if I can get some hammerdin mf stuff ^^

EDIT: just found Tal rasha's amu ^^

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:18 pm

Since so few monsters are Magical Immune, you could do good area MF:in combination with XP-ing. Apart from the Pits, Chaos Sactuary and Worldstone Keep are excellent MF areas where you also get plenty of XP.

You found Tal's ammo? Congrats and LOL since I'm looking for it myself but I haven't found it

Sort of weird to find the armour and the globe but not the ammo....

garazdawi · Post by **garazdawi** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:56 pm

Originally posted by C Elegans
You found Tal's ammo? Congrats and LOL since I'm looking for it myself but I haven't found it Sort of weird to find the armour and the globe but not the ammo....

Yae I thought it kinda funna as well.....

my assa mf is actually going really well... got 175 in mf right now, and no mf in helm or armour or claws, so I'm hoping for like 250 in mf which is kinda nice....

right now I'm doing pit/eldritch/shenk/pindle runs like mad

garazdawi · Post by **garazdawi** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 4:03 pm

Originally posted by C Elegans
Tell me how the Hell forge rushes went, and how long it took. Do you use gate chars for the blocking quests?

NOt good at all the first time we tried it.....it took 3 hours to get two chars all the way up

and we only got 1 hel, 2 fal, 1 um.... so it's not really worth it....

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:59 am

@Garaz: I've done it 2 times now, we didn't clock it but it took a lot of time...and we also got not good runes. The worst problem wasn't the rush, that's done very quickly with my Meteorb sorc, the problem is lvl:ing the mules to 40 so they can pass NM Ancients (one needs to be lvl 40 as you know). As soos as I have any playing chars that is lvl 40, I will do it again though.

How is your MF:ing going by the way? Mine is going terrific

I've been so lucky lately, found many really good items - but still no #£@% Tal's ammo!

garazdawi · Post by **garazdawi** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:06 am

Originally posted by C Elegans
@Garaz: I've done it 2 times now, we didn't clock it but it took a lot of time...and we also got not good runes. The worst problem wasn't the rush, that's done very quickly with my Meteorb sorc, the problem is lvl:ing the mules to 40 so they can pass NM Ancients (one needs to be lvl 40 as you know). As soos as I have any playing chars that is lvl 40, I will do it again though.

You don't have to ^^ I have a lvl 4 mule thats done hellforge in hell

Originally posted by C Elegans
How is your MF:ing going by the way? Mine is going terrific I've been so lucky lately, found many really good items - but still no #£@% Tal's ammo!

well... I found gf 230 ed of shenk a couple of days ago, but besides that I haven't found anything really nice.... but I*ve managed to get like 350 mf on my assa now and it really makes a big diff from only 100. Right now I*m running thorugh a dry spot though.... made 10 eldrich-shenk-pndle runs last night and didn't get a single unique item :| guess you got 'em all

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 8:18 am

Originally posted by garazdawi
You don't have to ^^ I have a lvl 4 mule thats done hellforge in hell

Me too (or lvl 7 he is I think), but you still need a lvl 40 char who hasn't done the quest, don't you? AFAIK, a char who doesn't have Baal on NM must do the Ancients and Baal, while your mule is in town. The mule gets Baal Quest and can go on to Hell. A lvl 2 char can't pass the Ancients since that is blocking quest, which means the lvl 2 can't be TP:ed into WK. Or do you know another way to do this? If so, let me know

My Meteorb sorc can take a mule up to Hellforge fairly fast, what takes time for me is to lvl up chars to 40.

well... I found gf 230 ed of shenk a couple of days ago, but besides that I haven't found anything really nice.... but I*ve managed to get like 350 mf on my assa now and it really makes a big diff from only 100. Right now I*m running thorugh a dry spot though.... made 10 eldrich-shenk-pndle runs last night and didn't get a single unique item :| guess you got 'em all

Hehe! So you have a GF now, that's sweet - we seem to find totally different items!

I have no GF, and still no self-found Tal's ammo, but I traded for the ammo with a friend so I have 1 one.

Have you let go of the idea to use Nat's set? If you still like it, I have 2 or more of everything except the armour. The claw is the most difficult to find, and I have 2 or 3 now, as well as 4-5 Bartuks...so if you like to trade something for them, let me know and I'll give you good price since we are fellow SYM:ians

garazdawi · Post by **garazdawi** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 6:44 am

Originally posted by C Elegans
Me too (or lvl 7 he is I think), but you still need a lvl 40 char who hasn't done the quest, don't you? AFAIK, a char who doesn't have Baal on NM must do the Ancients and Baal, while your mule is in town. The mule gets Baal Quest and can go on to Hell. A lvl 2 char can't pass the Ancients since that is blocking quest, which means the lvl 2 can't be TP:ed into WK. Or do you know another way to do this? If so, let me know My Meteorb sorc can take a mule up to Hellforge fairly fast, what takes time for me is to lvl up chars to 40.

Nope, we have to wait in town until someone comes along that want to go to nm/hell..... a couple of friends of mine made the stupidest mistake last night... we had just started new chars and when we reaches lvl 40 we just went over to nm without even thinking of taking along 2 mules each (that's 6 mules!!)... we felt soooo stupid after that

BTW I'm building up a mf meteorb sorc now... it's gonna be really fun to see if I can get her really good at mfing.... I'm also prolly gonna give her merc gf

and some other good stuff so that he can take careof almost any monster himself ^^

Originally posted by C Elegans
Hehe! So you have a GF now, that's sweet - we seem to find totally different items! I have no GF, and still no self-found Tal's ammo, but I traded for the ammo with a friend so I have 1 one.

Have you let go of the idea to use Nat's set? If you still like it, I have 2 or more of everything except the armour. The claw is the most difficult to find, and I have 2 or 3 now, as well as 4-5 Bartuks...so if you like to trade something for them, let me know and I'll give you good price since we are fellow SYM:ians

although it would be kinda cool to have a full nat's set I think I'd rather find it myself... more fun that way... right now I'm more focused on hardcore mf for my charged strike ama (65) that kills baal in nm with 10 srikes in a 4 player game ^^ I am sooo doing that build in sc as well.... it soo rocks.

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 5:33 am

Originally posted by garazdawi
Nope, we have to wait in town until someone comes along that want to go to nm/hell..... a couple of friends of mine made the stupidest mistake last night... we had just started new chars and when we reaches lvl 40 we just went over to nm without even thinking of taking along 2 mules each (that's 6 mules!!)... we felt soooo stupid after that

Ah, that's too bad

I have taken to the habit of always bringing a mule when I play a new char up to lvl 40...did 2 Hellforge rushes yesterday, got an Io and an Ist. I don't have the patience to lvl up mules to 40, but I've decided to use all chars I am playing.

BTW I'm building up a mf meteorb sorc now... it's gonna be really fun to see if I can get her really good at mfing.... I'm also prolly gonna give her merc gf and some other good stuff so that he can take careof almost any monster himself ^^

It's a very nice build, I think...for pure boss running, esp and Pindle, a Blizzard sorc is more efficient, but for area 85-MF:ing a Meteorb is better. A good thing with area MF:ing is that you also have a good chance of finding runes. I found a Ber in River of Flame the other day

although it would be kinda cool to have a full nat's set I think I'd rather find it myself... more fun that way... right now I'm more focused on hardcore mf for my charged strike ama (65) that kills baal in nm with 10 srikes in a 4 player game ^^ I am sooo doing that build in sc as well.... it soo rocks.

I agree with you, it's much more fun to find the items yourself

I traded with a friend for Tal's ammo last week because I got impatient, but I would have preferred to find it myself.

I've never played Java, sound like a good build!