Originally posted by Waverly: My coffee house my rules (unless Uncle Buck desides to re-zone the area)
ROFL
Machiavelli... fine.
Why Nicolo Machiavelli was not successful in the office? We all know his ingenious thought in diplomacy, though he never had successful career and died poor. His best friend, Guiccialdini, was a career diplomat but he is not as famous as Machiavelli. What made Machiavelli more attractive now than then?
"Strength without wisdom falls by its own weight."
A word to the wise is sufficient Minerva (Semi-retired SYMer)
How about this, I believe Machiavelli was not the diabolical mind we seem to label him as today. He was a cunning, but actually very logical politico and philosopher.
Edit: Spoke to soon...Let's cover both questions then....
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Then darkness took me, and I strayed out of thought and time
@Minerva: Isn't it true that he was under-appreciated in his own time (as was Shakespeare) and now we kind of hang this cult like mistique on his ideas?
Then darkness took me, and I strayed out of thought and time
@Minerva: I would bet that most people who use the word 'Machiavellian' don't know who he is let alone have read his work. They are just bowing to the prevailing pop-cultural Machiavelli the icon.
Bye darkpoet
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Then darkness took me, and I strayed out of thought and time
Originally posted by Waverly: @Minerva: Isn't it true that he was under-appreciated in his own time (as was Shakespeare) and now we kind of hang this cult like mistique on his ideas?
He was very much under appreciated, yes. He wrote the Prince with the hope to be employed by the Medici again.
My supper is ready... I think I am going to travel between my computer and table every minutes from now on. Only a few step apart anyway...
See you, Darkpoet.
"Strength without wisdom falls by its own weight."
A word to the wise is sufficient Minerva (Semi-retired SYMer)
Good afternoon all, I have been trying all morning to sign on Nice place here Doc.
If I may bring up one point pertinent to the pyramid discussion...modern culture has gotten so reliant on technology we forget the importance of craftsmanship. Ancient trades were often handed down generation to generation with the refinements and "trade secrets" passed on to only a few each generation. I believe that a master craftsman would probably have the skill, the methods and the devotion or inspiration to create the properly fitting stones and even the designs. Plus astronomy was well known by ancient peoples, even some of the monliths in Europe have astonomical correlation.
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Medieval Italian politics..very venemous. Minerva what's your opinion on Lucretia Borgia? The evil woman of legend or the victim in a political struggle? I ask because I saw a lovely series on her some time ago
@ Waverly I read Von Daniken in 5th grade..appropriate age I think
I'm open to possibilities, but have yet to see proof
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