The Grey Griffin Lounge and Coffee House

Gruntboy · Post by **Gruntboy** » Thu May 10, 2001 6:57 am

Is that a spud gun?

Darkpoet · Post by **Darkpoet** » Thu May 10, 2001 6:59 am

I have a few semi-autos. Will that do?

Weasel · Post by **Weasel** » Thu May 10, 2001 7:01 am

Originally posted by Gruntboy:
Is that a spud gun?

Hmmmm...It's a saying my grandpaw used.

Let's just say it's a 'smelly' gun...

Brink · Post by **Brink** » Thu May 10, 2001 7:02 am

Hmmm...how come nobody owns the always reliable water gun??

fable · Post by **fable** » Thu May 10, 2001 7:02 am

Tatar gun? As in fish tatar?

Gruntboy · Post by **Gruntboy** » Thu May 10, 2001 7:04 am

Ewww...

I had a spud gun when I was a kid - you jammed the front into a potato and it picked up a piece of it. Then you could fire the potato piece at people. It just meant you had to walk around with a spud in your pocket...

And from that humble beginning an urban terrorist was born

Brink · Post by **Brink** » Thu May 10, 2001 7:07 am

Gruntboy-Was that how you got your love of marines and their guns???

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Darkpoet · Post by **Darkpoet** » Thu May 10, 2001 7:08 am

Originally posted by Gruntboy:
Ewww...

I had a spud gun when I was a kid - you jammed the front into a potato and it picked up a piece of it. Then you could fire the potato piece at people. It just meant you had to walk around with a spud in your pocket...

And from that humble beginning an urban terrorist was born

When you walked around with the potatoe in your pants. Was it in the front or the back?

Gruntboy · Post by **Gruntboy** » Thu May 10, 2001 7:14 am

Ha ha. I put the spud in my front left pocket to even out the imbalance my huge d!ck caused by being stuffed down my right trouser leg (even when I was 10).

Flagg · Post by **Flagg** » Fri May 11, 2001 3:05 pm

Originally posted by Weasel:


I have heard...do away with all guns....yea right...just like doing away with all illegal drugs...that's working

Sorry to ruin your nice little dream on this one. I know that most Americans don't agree with the Dutch policy on this one, but the legalization of soft drugs has helped. Contrary to what some American experts say.

Weasel · Post by **Weasel** » Fri May 11, 2001 5:09 pm

Originally posted by Flagg:
Sorry to ruin your nice little dream on this one. I know that most Americans don't agree with the Dutch policy on this one, but the legalization of soft drugs has helped. Contrary to what some American experts say.

So you can buy crack in Holland.

Pot/hash isn't what wrong in the US.

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Fri May 11, 2001 11:54 pm

Originally posted by Flagg:

1. Considering the fact that we live in an imperfect world, What do you think of capitalism? Is it the best system that is posible?

2. To what extent does an individual have the right to defend him or herself?

1. Theoretically, I think many systems would be better that capitalism to improve the situation for the less privileged 90% of earths population (OMG, I sound like Nalia

:eek

. Realistically, with the values our culture holds etc...nah, I can't think of anything better.

2. Difficult question. The Swedish laws are similar to the Dutch. Trouble is it's not clearly stated what is allowed and not, the law text says you may defend yourself with "reasonable violence". What the h*ll is reasonable? It's judged from case to case, and often has absurd as well as tragic consequences.
On the other hand, I personally do not believe in the right to defend yourself beyond all limits. Remember the case in the 1908's when a man shot 4 teenagers to death because they stole his wallet? That's also absurd and tragic.

Judging degree of threat is very difficult, even for policemen and other trained people. Easy access to handguns in taking a big risk. Everyone can kill someone with a gun, and remember that many studies in US and Europe show that a majority of people does not react adaptive to stressful and threatning events.

Also, I don't believe in fear of punishment as prophylax. If fear of getting hurt would scare away criminals, countries where everybody have easy access to weapons should have less robbery etc that countries with heavy weapon restrictions, and that doesn't seem to be the case.

Flagg · Post by **Flagg** » Sat May 12, 2001 12:12 am

Originally posted by Weasel:
So you can buy crack in Holland.

No, but there are people looking into the effects of legalizing hard drugs. To be honest, I haven't given this much thought. But I believe that it is clear that certain people will use drugs whether they are legal or illegal.

Minerva · Post by **Minerva** » Mon Nov 05, 2001 5:28 pm

*bump*

The owner of this establishment is more or less retired, but there're a few intellectual people remain on board. So, hopefully, this is useful again.

WARNING: Please don't debate anything about current issues/politics/international relations etc here. We already have enough threads dedicated to them.

Thanks.

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Mon Nov 05, 2001 5:49 pm

@Minerva: Good that you bumped this - I'm sure we have the owner's permission to use this establishment

I suppose I count as one or the intellectually inclined here

I agree with you we should try to keep current political issues out of here, and instead discuss other topics.

A question I got from our new PhD student at lunch today:

In your personal opinion:

1. What are the top 5 novels you have ever read?

2. Who are the top 5 scientists of all times, in all areas?

Minerva · Post by **Minerva** » Wed Nov 07, 2001 2:37 pm

Top 5 novels? That's an impossible question!!

Let me think....

Oh, about the scientists. That's even more impossible. I haven't got a clue about science. It just comes into my head from my left ear, then leaves from the right

Aleldar · Post by **Aleldar** » Wed Nov 07, 2001 2:41 pm

Can I have a latte and pastry instead of answering those questions?

*Looks around* Hmmmmm nice place. What kind of books are we allowed to read in here??

Waverly · Post by **Waverly** » Wed Nov 07, 2001 3:09 pm

Top 5 scientists: Galileo, Newton, Einstein, Darwin, and Archimedes.

Novels: Prayer for Owen Meany, LOTR, Mice and Men, Moby ****, and Great Expectations.

Neither list is terribly well thought out, but they will have to do. Now what are you people doing to my establishment?

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Wed Nov 07, 2001 4:11 pm

The on top of my head answer I gave our new PhD student:

Top 5 novels: Joyce's Ulysseus, Solochov's Quiet Don, Eco's Faucault's Pendulum, Mishima's "Sea of Fertility" tetralogy, especially "The decay of the Angel", and Sidney's Arcadia (even if that is stretching the definition of a "novel")

Top 5 scientists: Even more difficult! Galileo, Newton, Darwin, Pasteur, Einstein

Ok, next question, science from a little different perspective:

Top 5 most important scientific discoveries, all areas?

Minerva · Post by **Minerva** » Wed Nov 07, 2001 4:30 pm

Originally posted by Waverly:
Now what are you people doing to my establishment?

I'm trying to find the place people can talk serious issues without getting into political arguement (not even a debate in some threads)...