Planecrash in US

nael · Post by **nael** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 9:24 am

china won't step in, but if it is actually bin laden, then oru problem will be afghanistan who is protectign him and has nukes...

nael · Post by **nael** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 9:26 am

correction on what i said earlier...all bases are at delta now

Tom · Post by **Tom** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 9:31 am

Originally posted by nael:
china won't step in, but if it is actually bin laden, then oru problem will be afghanistan who is protectign him and has nukes...

afganistan do not have nukes. the proplem will be to find him. any such operation will take a long time and be messy.

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 9:32 am

Originally posted by Tom:
im not sure they think like that. they will look at it as revenge for crimes commited by the US. they wont look to the future i think.

This wont weaken the US as a global power nor will it stop them from supporting the israel govnerment. this was revenge.

My question wasn't really a question, more a rhetoric comment is sadness and shock

No, terrorists probably don't care about long term political or econimical goals, if they did they wouldn't be terrorists, I suppose

nael · Post by **nael** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 9:32 am

oh yes they do...them, pakistan, india all got nuclear capability as of either last year or the year before.

Happy Evil · Post by **Happy Evil** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 9:42 am

What is to be gained from this??

To bloody the nose of the US?? What is gained??

To ask for 10 times retribution from the US military. What is gained??

Some sort of Jihad martyr making? Real benefit besides getting name on plaque???

The Japanese made this same sort of mistake by acting and failing to fully see the retribution that would be demanded by the US population. I think if these terrorists wanted to bring to bear the full rage of the American people, along with the concentration of its resources, to eliminate these types of threats they have succeeded.
The rules have now changed.

It is hard to believe that any religion or belief embraced by large populations could possibly condone these actions. I, like many others, am finding it very hard to control my rage. I dont think the US will do anything rash. I know that those resposible will answer for this.

Prayers for all the victims.

Georgi · Post by **Georgi** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 9:51 am

The Taliban ambassador to Pakistan, Abdul Salam Zaeef, has condemned the attacks, according to the Pakistan-based Afghan Islamic press agency.

Sailor Saturn · Post by **Sailor Saturn** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 9:51 am

Originally posted by C Elegans:
The Beeb said a while ago most people was evacuated from the World Trade centre buildings before they collapsed, but now they haven't said anything more. I really hope they were right.

They got most of the people from a little under half way up, but they could not get to above that in time.

Rob-hin · Post by **Rob-hin** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 9:58 am

Followers of the ones who have done it were dancing on the streets I hear...
The @#$%^& have to be bombed! All of them.
Mad people like that don't deseve to live. All they do around there is war and stuf like that.

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 9:59 am

Originally posted by Sailor Saturn:
They got most of the people from a little under half way up, but they could not get to above that in time.

That must have been a awful number of people. Imagine what it must feel like for their families...What horrific waste of human life

It's almost incomprehensible

I'm sure the US will find out who's responsible. Such a large scale operation must leave a lot of traces.

Kayless · Post by **Kayless** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 10:02 am

The death toll easily numbers in the thousands. I’m trying to keep calm but it’s hard not to fly off into a rage. This cravenly assault must be met with swift and deadly reprisal. I don’t know who’s to blame for this but I was disgusted to see footage from Jerusalem of people dancing in the streets and celebrating when they heard of the carnage. Has human life become so devoid of value? The world has taken a turn for the surreal. Some folks are even talking about the book of Revelations and Armageddon. I know if America goes to war over this I’m enlisting. God keep the souls of those slain and may the sword of justice find the hearts of the bastards responsible.

Sailor Saturn · Post by **Sailor Saturn** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 10:09 am

Originally posted by Tom:
im not sure they think like that. they will look at it as revenge for crimes commited by the US. they wont look to the future i think.

This wont weaken the US as a global power nor will it stop them from supporting the israel govnerment. this was revenge.

But it will change our way of life in some way. Already we're at a state of war with fighter planes patrolling the skies of Washington, D.C.

The Manhattan skyline has been permanently changed.

Part of what made us so vernerable(sp?) to this are our freedoms. How many of those freedoms will we lose because of this?

average joe · Post by **average joe** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 10:12 am

the 6th deaths and 1000 injuries to which you are referring was the result of the 1993 world trade center bombing. this is far more devestating. the official casualty ESTIMATE at this time is now 10,000. both towers have collapsed...they are gone...

average joe · Post by **average joe** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 10:15 am

All i could ask is that ppl remain calm and be sure to seek the truthful information in all this...not spread false information. and for those of you who pray, please keep this entire situation formeost in your prayers.

Gwalchmai · Post by **Gwalchmai** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 10:16 am

Here in Tucson, government and police buildings are obviously on heightened security. The Red Cross has put a call out for blood donations, but their collection centers are currently jam-packed, and they are trying to open new centers. There isn't much any of us can do about the situation, but I intend to give blood later today. I encourage everyone to do so as well. Even international blood banks may be tapped. Just a suggestion.

nael · Post by **nael** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 10:16 am

some of those thousands athat are dead are fire fighters and police who were tryign to help and save people. not only were those people inside taken, but all those hundreds of new yorkers walkign underneath...

"freedom itself was attacked" - GW Bush

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 10:18 am

Originally posted by Rob-hin:
Followers of the ones who have done it were dancing on the streets I hear...
The @#$%^& have to be bombed! All of them.
Mad people like that don't deseve to live. All they do around there is war and stuf like that.

??? Aren't you making some rather unfounded assumptions here? So far, both BBC and CNN says it's far to early to tell who's responsible for the attacks.

Pictures of a some hundred anti-American Palestinians celebrating, has been broadcasted. IMO there are no excuses for celebrating death and disaster of other people, especially not civilians. But the celebrating Palestinians probably feel what some of us in the Western world would feel if the perpertrators of this attack were hunted down and killed this very moment. Revenge and hate are strong in the human mind.

EDIT: You beat me to it, AJ.

[ 09-11-2001: Message edited by: C Elegans ]

Darkpoet · Post by **Darkpoet** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 10:26 am

They just closed off the Canadian and Mexican borders.

Gwalchmai · Post by **Gwalchmai** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 10:26 am

There will probably be many groups claiming responsibility. We should not even consider retaliation until we know for sure who is responsible. Oklahoma showed us that it could even be a US group. Consequently, I would urge caution.

Rob-hin · Post by **Rob-hin** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 10:26 am

Originally posted by C Elegans:
??? Aren't you making some rather unfounded assumptions here? So far, both BBC and CNN says it's far to early to tell who's responsible for the attacks.

Pictures of a some hundred anti-American Palestinians celebrating, has been broadcasted. IMO there are no excuses for celebrating death and disaster of other people, especially not civilians. But the celebrating Palestinians probably feel what some of us in the Western world would feel if the perpertrators of this attack were hunted down and killed this very moment. Revenge and hate are strong in the human mind.

All what these "people" do is bomb one and an other. Voilense everywhere.
Put wall around the whole place and wait till they are all dead.

Fighting about who's religion is better, all wanting theire own country, thinking they are better then the rest.
For these "people" I have no mercy.