Happy Birthday, Beldin!

Eerhardt · Post by **Eerhardt** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 1:51 am

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Astafas: LOL@coffin joke

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C.C.B. stands for Columbian Coffee Brew. It's another family recipe of mine and will get a man KNURD (opposite of drunk) in no time (unless it's laced).
EDIT - I see Beldin already beat me to it

. You can always check the sigs too for details on our other drinks.
Thanks for preparing those documents, by the way. Let the experiments begin! Any testsubjects up for spiking?
@Mah: it's been done before e.g. in this thread, but we thought this place would be as good as any for discussing the topic (what with the booze, the spliffs 'n all

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** lights a spliff and lights a Buck's FIZZ with it, then takes a drink and takes a hit from his spliff **

Ode to a Grasshopper · Thu Jun 06, 2002 2:01 am

Hey! My C.C.B.! **Goes and gets another one** Oh well, enjoy @Mah.

Oh yeah, @the mods, I'm with Beldin, if you want me to change anything I post because it's too whatever just let me know and I'll see if I can alter it without losing the point.

Hopefully that won't be necessary.

@Beldin-but then you have the same problem of how to moderate your intake. Imagine the getting the munchies with hash cookies all around you.

Beldin · Post by **Beldin** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 2:04 am

Originally posted by Ode to a Grasshopper
I did have a harder time remembering what people had said (I had to improvise making conversation , thankfully no-one else was any better off than me), but I attribute that just as much to the amount I took.

@Ode: I've made the experience that - if I'm stoned - I can somehow repress the effects of the drug on my body - just like pushing aside a veil

. (Only to a certain degree of course.

) . I've never been able to appear completely sober and alert when I've been drunk, but it's no problem for me if I'm "high" on grass. (Only if I overdose - then I get completely "out of touch"

).

Have you (or any of the others present ) had similar experiences ?

**refills his glass of Laphroaig**

Originally posted by Ode to a Grasshopper

Imagine the getting the munchies with hash cookies all around you.

OMG - I didn't think of THAT ....yet....

Ode to a Grasshopper · Thu Jun 06, 2002 2:21 am

To an extent it's possible to push aside the mental effects, and I have managed to appear as merely tired while under the influence on a few (extremely tense) situations, but I've been able to do the same thing drunk.

I've done the out-of-touch thing a few times, the most noticeable being the first time I saw the Rocky Horror Picture Show with my friends and when I ate half a tub of mull butter on Australia day and watched the fireworks (now that was cool), but I can always come back out of my mind with enough effort. I have an extremely good imagination though, so I come up with some really weird ideas when I'm heavily stoned.

Beldin · Post by **Beldin** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 2:28 am

what an arsehole...

....please give me your opinion on THIS article.

Somehow I get the impression that this guy has a severe problem somewhere in his "nether" regions....

Especially THIS passage gave me the creeps: "Is the American health care system -- the most sophisticated in the world "

**lights a spliff to get over the agitation**

Kameleon · Post by **Kameleon** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 2:42 am

Wow, Beldin, that article is...how shall I put it...a bit paranoid? I wonder which side this particular journalist comes down on:

a cynical campaign is underway, in the District and elsewhere, to proclaim the virtues of "medical" marijuana.

While medical marijuana initiatives are based on pseudo-science

marijuana's destructive effects

But marijuana is far from "harmless" -- it is pernicious.

And this is just plain stupid:

By now most Americans realize that the push to "normalize" marijuana for medical use is part of the drug legalization agenda.

Do our struggling schools really need another obstacle to student achievement?

Seems to me this guy needs to step back and take a few deep breaths...

Stilgar · Post by **Stilgar** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 2:43 am

Re: what an arsehole...

Originally posted by Beldin
....please give me your opinion on THIS article.

Somehow I get the impression that this guy has a severe problem somewhere in his "nether" regions....

Especially THIS passage gave me the creeps: "Is the American health care system -- the most sophisticated in the world "

**lights a spliff to get over the agitation**

That's a good example of how some amircan's think their superior then other country's.

But i would rather be in a hospital in switserland then in a hospital where ever on this planet

Beldin · Post by **Beldin** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 2:48 am

Beldin:

@Stil: I can't complain, the Austrian medical system (and the hospitals) are pretty good.

@Kam: It became clear to me after reading the header of the article:

Author: John P. Walters
Note: The writer is director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy.

@all the Thunderers:You guys up for another round of GIGGLEs and maybe a visit to ole'Ole ?

**Refills his glass with Laphroaig again**

Brink · Post by **Brink** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 2:54 am

Good afternoon peeps

.

I see that the discussion is coming along nicely...I'll be at the lab for awhile(brainstorming new recipes

), so just holler if you need me

Beldin · Post by **Beldin** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 2:58 am

Beldin:

Hi Brink !

Enjoy your stay, want some GIGGLE ?

**draws on his spliff and SLURRS his Laphroaig**

Kameleon · Post by **Kameleon** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 3:01 am

Re: Beldin:

Well, Beldin, I guess that explains some of the article...but really, I was shocked at just how biased it was - surely someone with such a high status would be able to write something that is a bit less rampantly biased than something like this:

As reported in The Post, the K Street Crew was a vicious group of marijuana dealers whose decade-long reign of terror was brought to an end only this year after a massive prosecution effort by Michael Volkov, chief gang prosecutor for the U.S. attorney's office. The K Street Crew is credited with at least 17 murders, including systematic killings of potential witnesses. ( It should not be confused with the L Street Crew, a D.C. marijuana gang that killed eight people in the course of doing business. )

Now all these facts may well be entirely correct, it's just the way that it's said that I strongly object to.

As you say, what an arsehole. I think I need a stiff drink...

Originally posted by Beldin
@all the Thunderers:You guys up for another round of GIGGLEs and maybe a visit to ole'Ole ?

**Refills his glass with Laphroaig again**

Hell, yes. Fill 'er up

*wrenches Monty out of the grasp of Ode, who seems to be having slightly too much fun with him, and holds him out*

I suppose at some point I'm going to have to take the plunge and ask just what this Laphroaig stuff is...Hit me with that linkage B

Brink · Post by **Brink** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 3:08 am

@Beldin-There's always time for some GIGGLE in everyone's life

@Kameleon-It's hard to be truly neutral when it comes to something like this (no matter what position that person is holding, he/she is after all, human, just like us).Of course, add that to the fact that his article was written to 'enlighten' people about the 'dangers' or marijuana, the way it was written was pretty much expected of him

Beldin · Post by **Beldin** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 3:10 am

Beldin:

Originally posted by Kameleon

I suppose at some point I'm going to have to take the plunge and ask just what this Laphroaig stuff is...Hit me with that linkage B

THUD ! **hits Kameleon with the linkeage**

I just LOOOOVE Single Malt Whisky...

No worries.

@Brink: I'm not out for "neutrality", but the style of this article is below ANY standard.... - We can discuss everything, but this style is just like a 10 year old who has just lost his favourite toy...

Kameleon · Post by **Kameleon** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 3:14 am

Release the pungent, earthy aroma of the blue peat smoke, the sweet nuttiness of the barley and the delicate, heathery perfume of Islay's streams.

Another example of extreme bias...

I'm not a big fan of whisky myself, vodka's more my style

Especially mixed with...just about anything, actually

Red Bull comes particularly to mind

Eerhardt · Post by **Eerhardt** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 3:16 am

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** looks up Laphroaig on the net, then reads through the article Beldin provided a link to **

Moreover, anti-smoking efforts aimed at youth have been remarkably effective by building on a campaign to erode the social acceptability of tobacco. Should we undermine those efforts by promoting smoked marijuana as though it were a medicine?

As Ode has stated, regular cigarettes are far more damaging than pot. Furthermore, marijuana has medicinal use, so the use of the author of the phrase "as though" is really out of place. E.g. morfine is much stronger a painkiller than marijuana and has to be administered in stronger dosages in the long run, which can shorten a patient's life span. If scientists can find a way to replace it with marijuana, I say: by all means, let them.

Giving marijuana dealers a free pass is a terrible idea. In fact, thanks in part to excellent reporting in The Post, District residents are increasingly aware that marijuana dealers are dangerous criminals. The recent life-without-parole convictions of leaders of Washington's K Street Crew are only the latest evidence of this.

So the K Street Crew is one example. It's not because criminals have dealt marijuana (and I'm sure they have dealt far more dangerous stuff too, not just marijuana), that all marijuana dealers are criminals. It's not because a serious hash addict used to smoke pot, that all potheads become hash addicts.

The THC in marijuana attaches itself to receptors in the hippocampal region of the brain, weakening short-term memory and interfering with the mechanisms that form long-term memory

Alcohol kills brain cells. I'm sure an argument like "alcohol is just as bad and it's legal" is no real positive contribution to the pro-cannabis lobbying, but still... America is a democracy. Why allow people to buy booze and not marijuana? As with all things, too much can never be good, but why not let people make up their own minds about it?

EDIT - crank out Ole, mate! ** finishes his Buck's FIZZ and starts on a GIGGLE ** @Brink: got anything in mind?still have to find out whether T'lainya's MOD powers will withstand the improved GIGGLE?

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 3:20 am

Re: the actions of Eerhardt

Originally posted by Eerhardt
As Ode has stated, regular cigarettes are far more damaging than pot.

Doesn't one mix pot in with marijuana to create a joint? (rhetorical question

) so in theory you still have to have the content of tabacco in the spliff...

Brink · Post by **Brink** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 3:22 am

Re: Beldin:

Originally posted by Beldin
...but this style is just like a 10 year old who has just lost his favourite toy...

Perhaps he did

Eerhardt · Post by **Eerhardt** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 3:26 am

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@Sleep:

Originally posted by Ode to a Grasshopper
The downside to smoking it is that it still damages your lungs, though the damage can be minimised with ice bongs which cool down the smoke. Cannabis smoke still causes less damage than cigarette soke (due to the abscence of tar and poisonous chemicals found in cigarettes), but it is still inhaling smoke into your lungs.
This can be overcome by the use of modified vaporizers, available from most specialty stores that sell smoking paraphenalia. They cost US$75 and upwards, depending upon the quality you want.
I don't have one, BTW, as they're a mite too expensive for my modest budget.

Glad to see you contributing to the discussion. Have a GIGGLE?

Beldin · Post by **Beldin** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 3:31 am

Beldin:

Since there seems to be some confusion about pot/dope/marijuana....

let me drop another LINK and probably this one as well.

Just to makle sure we're all talking about the same...

No worries,

Beldin, the Linkmaster

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 3:34 am

Re: the actions of Eerhardt

Originally posted by Eerhardt
Glad to see you contributing to the discussion. Have a GIGGLE?

I have to work so i can't really get into the debate with any concerted effort

Still don't most people just use a peice ripped off their rizzla packet instead of a filter?