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Originally posted by Tamerlane
Damn those marketing guru's at New Line. I can't buy three DVD's of the same thing. :mad:


But I might just get them anyway :o
They're only cheating us if we actualy buy all three. Which of course where all going to do.

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Originally posted by Morlock
If you havn't heard- they're releasing 3 different versions of the LoTR DVD, each one with different stuff, so to get the entire expierience you have to buy all three. And there isn't any commentary on any of them.
That's not what I've seen... The email shot from the official website said there was a 2-disc version out in August, and a 4-disc version in November with lots of extra material... :confused:
Also they're totaly taking out 'The scouring of the Shire', the last chapter of the third book.
That much was evident from what was left out of FotR.
They say they're going to end it with Galadriel's vision somehow, which terrible, concidering the fact that she was, in the eyes of many the worst part of the movie.
You could tenuously have worked that out as well... since the narration at the beginning of FotR was Galadriel... It could have worked I guess, but I don't like the way Cate Blanchett played her so... :rolleyes:

I don't think one can criticise them too much for altering which film each part goes in... after all, they have to have a certain amount of closure at the end of each. The fight with the uruk-hai doesn't happen at the end of FotR, it's at the beginning of TTT, but was anyone complaining? Doesn't make much difference. Tolkien wrote it deliberately so that the cliffhanger endings would make you want to read on, and it is more like one long story than 3 separate books. The films need to be more coherent entities in themselves.

Just going to check your links, Morlock ;)

Edit: if you check the link to the Empire Online story, you'll find it says this:
Despite previous rumours, it turns out that two not three DVD releases are planned: an initial theatrical release, to be followed by an extended cut featuring thirty minutes of unseen footage.
The two that I previously mentioned. By not buying the 2-disc set, you won't miss out on anything... you'll just have to wait longer for it. I don't see much wrong with this.
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Originally posted by Georgi
The fight with the uruk-hai doesn't happen at the end of FotR, it's at the beginning of TTT, but was anyone complaining?
I was. But then I complained about that it was a fight at all. ;)

I cant understand why they didnt end the movie with Boromirs funeral. That would have been so much better.
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@Dots you complained about all of it :D Ending it with Boromir's funeral wouldn't have been true to the books either... and they still managed to get it to look ahead to the next one, and focus on the main story - Frodo and the ring.

Anecdote: one of the times I saw the movie was with my parents. When it finished, my mum said "Oh, is that the end? I thought they were going to take the ring to Mordor?" I patiently explained to her that it was only the first part of a trilogy... *sigh* :D
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I dont care about beeing true to the book. I just want a good movie. And I only complained about the bad parts. :D

My mother actually liked it more than I did. :rolleyes:
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It was a good movie... I did acknowledge the bad parts, but I still thought it was good despite them... yada yada yada ;)

Oh, my mum, having never read the book, enjoyed the film a lot more than my dad, who has...
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Originally posted by Georgi
It was a good movie... I did acknowledge the bad parts, but I still thought it was good despite them... yada yada yada ;)

Oh, my mum, having never read the book, enjoyed the film a lot more than my dad, who has...
:cool: ;)

Yes, some people who havnt read the books seem to like it anyway... Im not entirly sure why, I would have thought it woould seem quite fragmented if you didnt know the story...
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I think they did the movie in such a way that if you hadn't read the books, you wouldn't be bombarded with excessive details, but if you had you would notice more of the details, and fill other parts in yourself. :)
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Apearently they were successful to some degree too. Although I've heard the opposite story as well.
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Originally posted by Georgi
I think they did the movie in such a way that if you hadn't read the books, you wouldn't be bombarded with excessive details, but if you had you would notice more of the details, and fill other parts in yourself. :)
Wasn't it just the die hard fans that were dissapointed with the movie. Well I for one don't expect to sit through a seven hour movie, regardless of how good it is.

It kept me entertained during to a degree. ;)
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Originally posted by Tamerlane
Wasn't it just the die hard fans that were dissapointed with the movie. Well I for one don't expect to sit through a seven hour movie, regardless of how good it is.

It kept me entertained during to a degree. ;)
Also there was me and Dottie :D

I have prattled on about my problems with LotR before, does anyone really want me to do it again? :D
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Originally posted by Mr Sleep
I have prattled on about my problems with LotR before, does anyone really want me to do it again? :D
No ;)

In a few months time, we can go through it all over again :D :p
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I have just finished a highly enjoyable couple of hours.
I would recommend this to any movie lovers out there.

In my daily visit to spielbergfilms.com I came across a link to Roger Ebert and Richard Roeper's audio review for 'Minority report'. They loved it, but that's not the point.
The point is, that the link was to Ebert and Roeper's site, which I didn't know existed.
A brief history- in the mid 80's Roger Ebert and Gene Siskel started their own TV show- 'Siskel and Ebert at the movies'. In it they reviewed the new movies coming out. They had totaly different tastes, which lead to hillarious unstaged arguments about certain movies.
When Siskel past away in 1999, Ebert formed a new duo with Richard Roeper. They continued in the same context of the original show.
Right now Roger Ebert is generaly concidered the top reviewer in the world.

Anyway, I was looking up other stuff on their show, and found some hillarious stuff. First, they have short reviews of every movie that came out in the past half year. But in addition, they also have about eight special reviews which include: their oscar picks, Ebert and Martin Scorsese's favorite movies of the 90's, their favorite films of 2001, and, something which really surprised me, a early 2000 interview with then president Clinton. He really comes off as a movie maven, and is impresive with his knowlege.

Their reviews are really funny to listen to. For instance, in the review for Episode 2, which Roeper liked and bet didn't, they have a great argument about it. Like Ebert says "He's Yoda! he doesn't need a light sabre!"
For 'The Sum of all fears' which Ebert liked and Roeper didn't Roeper goes 'I don't believe you fell for that!'
For 'Behind Enemy lines' which they both agreed was stupid:
they say: "The movie tries to make the point 'do you know the difference between a Serbian and Bosnian?'" Ebert goes "It doesn't matter! the bad guys are the guys not speaking English and the good guy is the guy with blond hair who does"!

I know that I misquoted them, but that's the jist of it. Also, you had to be there, so go to the site and look page by page for something interesting.
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I rented The Patriot DVD last week, because I havn't seen it in a while and wanted to hear the music.

A few points I made to myself:

I always thought that the image of Gibson running with his tomahawk (I have no idea about the spelling) looked just like 'The last of the Mohicans' cover. I've never seen it, but I always seem to pass it at the video store.

It stars two men who I believe are among the best British actors around today: Jason Isaacs and Tom Wilkenson.
Isaacs is simply a great actor, especialy good at playing guys with a negative side to them (like here and Black Hawk Down), but also showed his ability to play an egghead in his breif but memorable (for me at least) performance in Armagedon.

His Tavington is so perfectly and believably evil, that he steals the show in every single scene he's in. His character is portrayed best in one of the deleted scenes:
Rollins: "Do your worst!"
Tavington: "I always do"

The best way to describe Tom Wilkenson is a chamilion- he plays a lot of different parts very convincingly.
He showed his comic ability in Shakespeare in Love and the Full Monty (Which I didn't really like).
He showed the potential for cruelty in the begining of SIL and, to a far lesser extent, in Rush hour. :rolleyes:
He showed a blend of those, in addition to a degree of royalty in The Patriot.
And, from what I understand, he played an American father very convincingly in In the Bed Room.

This movie is one of the best examples of a movie in which the bad guys are so much more likable than the good guys- like Dustin Hoffman in Hook or Saruman and the Nazgul in FoTR. Although in FoTR it's not fair, as they have awful actors in the main roles. :p The more I think of it, the more I despise Elija Wood and Peter Jackson for ruining the main character your suppose to connect with. :mad:


The dynamics of his character in the movie are very interesting, since really, he's not a bad guy. He was just manipulated by his officer to agreing to those brutaql tactics.

The movie followes a very familiar route which exists mainly in criminal movies- the good guys have a run of good luck, a bunch of good jobs, than it gets messed up, but in the end they have a big fight/ heist in which they turn out victorious. See Entrapment, Ordinary Decent Criminal, The general (I know I'm cheating here), Gladiator.

I liked the comedy in the movie. Not because it was funny, (which it wasn't), but because it made the characters more human.

I loved in the scene when the ship blows up in the background of the party. The civilized and calm music really make it much funnier.

I also saw I am Sam.
Nothing special really, except for some really convincing acting by Penn.
You do forget that he's an actor acting and really believe he's retarded.

I really resent the terrible Beatles covers they have in the movie. :mad:

Richard Schiff was really good, as usual. He's much better now than when he icked all these roles of losers. I guess The West Win changed that. ;)

The only really quotable line was: ' You're telling me that neither of you want custody of your child?'

I also saw 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind' and 'Interview with the Vampire' (the latter for the first time).
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My latest movies (in order): Minority Report (Much better than I thought), The Mothman Prophecies (Freaky, not scary), and Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back (Only for people with very crude humor, the worst movie out of these three)
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I saw The Bourne Identity tonight. It was a pretty good movie. Nothing great, kind of fun. Not very serious. They changed it alot from the book, but Robert Ludlum produced the movie also, so I guess he felt that the book was to complicated for the movie.

I love the part when Damon and the 2nd agent are running around in the field outside the farm, and Damon blows up the car with a battery fired from a shotgun. :D Told you too much.

I would give it a: 'B'
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I would apritiate it if whoever sees Minority Report posts their opinion/rating.
It's the movie I've been anticipating most the entire year.
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Minority Report isn't out here until July...

@Morlock I think that The Patriot was treated unfairly by the critics over here when it came out, it is nowhere near as bad as they said, I actually thought it was quite entertaining, if cheesy... kind of a cross between Braveheart and Independence Day. :D Also, why complain about the British bad guy when he is such a fantastic villain? ;) The French guy was kinda tacky though.

You forgot Wilkinson playing a male stripper in The Full Monty :D

@FotR (without starting another big argument) I think the actors who were cast did fit with some people's vision of it perfectly, but you can't please everyone. A lot of people thought Elijah Wood was great. A lot don't. *shrugs* ;)
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Originally posted by Georgi
@FotR (without starting another big argument) I think the actors who were cast did fit with some people's vision of it perfectly, but you can't please everyone. A lot of people thought Elijah Wood was great. A lot don't. *shrugs* ;)
*grabs anti Elijah soapbox*... :D
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