Lowest usefull AC?

[Ambiorix]

On some threads some people say that any AC (armour-class) below AC -10 is disregarded by the game. On other threads some imply that AC's below -10 are still useful? Quid?

Is there any point of having an AC below -10?

Thank you for your help.

[The fallen one]

Probaly not.

Well I always play around -7 to -10 Ac And I have noticed not any big difference in them. I think it would be better to focus on resistance to types of attacks like slashing. But some people can get some real low AC out there. I have never been to much for that myself. But as being a difference I am not to sure.

[Littiz]

At the early stage of the game, there's no point in having a too low AC, as all the enemies would need a critical in any case to hit you.
Progressing with the game, enemy THAC0s rise of course...
In ToB the average enemy hits you easily unless you have an AC
around -20 or so

[Ambiorix]

You guys are probably right. I've just soloed trough the game with an AC that was never higher than -10. But still: is it true that the game doesn't take AC below -10 into account? Can anyone confirm this?

[Zelgadis]

If you only have soa, they game doesn't count anything lower than -10, but iirc tob counts any ac you can get.

[Obsidian]

Ya, basically cuz In SoA few things can hit -10, let alone -20.

I rarely go below -5 in SoA.

[jaxaxe]

at the moment(i'm in sahaugin city), mine's -13, and -20 against missile (from the fortress sheild)

[Alson]

Ambiorix, AFAIK, the Infinity Engine limit of AC calculations is -20.
Therefor, there is no difference between -20 AC and - 24 AC.
I'm not sure, though - you need someone like Sabre or Sojourner (sp?) to confirm this.

[Ambiorix]

Thanks for the replies. That's what I wanted to know.

[VonDondu]

I've been told by one of the people who works closely with TeamBG (who should know these kinds of things) that the lowest useful AC in Shadows of Amn is -10. I wasn't aware that Throne of Bhaal can recognize AC all the way down to -20. I, too, would like for an Infinity Engine expert to confirm or deny this.

[Querschen]

I found that once you get around -13 or so mind flayers cannot touch you if you arent stunned. This is however not the case with -10, your brain gets eaten rather quick. This kind of contradicts what you guys have been saying, but I have patched ToB while playing SoA so Im not quite sure if this matters.

[Ambiorix]

Originally posted by Querschen
I found that once you get around -13 or so mind flayers cannot touch you if you arent stunned. This is however not the case with -10, your brain gets eaten rather quick. This kind of contradicts what you guys have been saying, but I have patched ToB while playing SoA so Im not quite sure if this matters.

-13 AC and Mindflayers can't touch you with intelligence-drain? Gonna try this right away. Combined with the brine-potion or the (patched) greenstone amulet this should make me completely invulnurable to them?

[Xyx]

I vaguely recall mind flayers having THAC0 7 or 8, so that could be right. They still hit you on critical hits, though (but you're so well-protected you usually gain Int faster than they can drain it).

Good thing that those Drow drop +5 shields and plate, eh?

[Alson]

Originally posted by Xyx
I vaguely recall mind flayers having THAC0 7 or 8, so that could be right. They still hit you on critical hits, though (but you're so well-protected you usually gain Int faster than they can drain it).

Good thing that those Drow drop +5 shields and plate, eh?

Actually, the flayers usually don't hit you on melee attacks if you're no stunned. That's what makes them so powerful - they stun you, and while stunned, all attacks hit, and your brain gets eaten very fast.